Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Nerve74]

Is this Swordsmanship?

No one has ever denied that Shanks has Haki moves that don't require a sword. The deal is that when Shanks gets serious he needs to pull out his sword. His best moves are used with his sword. Not simply haki and not a gun. Those haki sword feats are bellow Mihawks feats. Thats what it means to be the WSS. The possibility of Shanks having super haki separate from his sword ended with Film Red.

 

[Franosuke]

Why is the Yoru so small in this chapter?

Looks like a popsicle stick compared to how massive it was in the past

Mihawk got too jacked over the timeskip

 

[Shanal]

In Swordsmanship

And overall :cheers:

So much so that the guy they consider Shanks' rival and leader of entire Cross Guild and its resources is less valuable than Mihawk.

 

[Tejas]

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I said no CoC for Mihawk

 

[Fuckthis3]

Buggy buggy buggy My boy buggy this will never happen to Apoo he need to join your guild to teach you surviving and durability

 

[Julius]

Is that Sanji

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

In Swordsmanship

Shanks has nothing else, he is a swordsman who is completely inferior to Mihawk in power. Even Doberman was ready to arrest Shanks himself.

 

[GoldDiamond]

What do you mean? Of course, he'd have things to move, and he's talking about moving when he says it's a lot of work. The man legit let Buggy be the leader of CD because he wants peace. Of course, he wouldn't want to deal with marine fleets every other day.

The ”marine hunter” the thing you were hyping up before Raws came out all of a sudden wants peace against marines

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

You mean Vista >= Mihawk > Shanks?

> showed
> in this fight
Learn to read you dum dum

 

[Levi]

According to marines:

"Buggy is a historically legendary pirate that rivals Shanks and has the entire Cross Guild at his beck and call."
"...so, Mihawk will get higher bounty as per his combat potential alone."

If this chapter doesn't scream Mihawk > Shanks, nothing will.

Oda has never said x is stronger than y I don’t know why shanks Stan’s trying to use that as a factor 🤣
Oda never answered big vs kaido roger vs wb garp vs roger he’s never stated who’s stronger but he’s supposed to do it now with mihawk 😆😆

 

[gashino]

So titles means nothing then
Or you are saying WB can defeat roger

yes the titles meant nothing. oda also mentioned WB could only go toe to toe with roger. This meant even after he got his df. But he was titled as WSM even before he got his df. Same with kaido. he is considered WSC but still so many on his list. But WSS is different bcz it related to swordsmanship and making one blade into a black blade. I think Mihawk is top of OP in terms of Swordsmanship skill. I think not even roger can beat him on that part.This also makes sense with what mentioned in vivre card. Bcz if you look into it's said his power is not decreased just shanks has lost an arm, and also he may not be as skilled as previously with his sword.That is why probably mihawk is waiting for a rival that surpasses shanks in terms of swordsmanship.

 

[SkySanji]

> showed
> in this fight
Learn to read you dum dum

Yes so Vista >= Mihawk

 

[Tejas]

No one has ever denied that Shanks has Haki moves that don't require a sword. The deal is that when Shanks gets serious he needs to pull out his sword. His best moves are used with his sword. Not simply haki and not a gun. Those haki sword feats are bellow Mihawks feats. Thats what it means to be the WSS. The possibility of Shanks having super haki separate from his sword ended with Film Red.

Shanks has nothing else, he is a swordsman who is completely inferior to Mihawk in power. Even Doberman was ready to arrest Shanks himself.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Yes. Hence Zoro won't use CoC against Mihawk

Lmao 😂 🤣 Zoro won't use CoC against Mihawk. Than how did CoC powerup finally made Zoro Kengo Swordmaster. Why was it a Haki powerup?

 

[Ryuarashi]

Apparently learning haki and mastering it while using it to fight makes you a none swordsmanship practitioner meaning you are not as skilled as Mihawk but you are overall stronger because of haki

When does "mastering" haki hold any relevance to an individual character's Haki capabilities?

Once again with the Fishman CoC example and to add, Kaido vs Luffy.

Dispite holding his own in Haki clashes with Kaido (showing their "mastery" ) Luffy eventually got overpowered I'n Haki clashes once Kaido started putting in more effort.

 

[Levi]

The ”marine hunter” the thing you were hyping up before Raws came out all of a sudden wants peace against marines

Used to be Marine hunter 😐your trying so hard you did t see those baboons outside his window ?? Lol mihawk didn’t even have to fight the fodder

 

[Franosuke]

Imagine how big Mihawk's CoC must be

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

No CoC lol

CoC is Haki

 

[Rootbeer]

So Big Mum was also not in full control of Napoleon and wasnt able to stabilize its power that's why everyone getting close to her was being knockout

Same with Kaidou who wasn't in full control of his kanabo and wasnt able to stabilize its power that's why the maries were being KO'd

Same with Luffy who wasn't in full control of his fists and wasn't able to stabilize its power that's why the maries were being knockout

Zoro just unlocked CoC then and there.. Big Mom had CoC already..

 

[Akuma_Law]

I hate the clown but i feel bad for him this chapter, he being bullied by Croco and Mihawk