Powers & Abilities Killer uses poisonous blades(Zoro vs Killer analysis)

[Kejon]

That doesnt mean he lost though you pleb does it. He beat killer fainted after.
Luffy beat moriah blacked out instantly. Only a thick fucker would equate that to a draw or moriah won.

Zoro and KIller looked equal Not to mention, Killer was nerfed hard. Zoro still fainted, because of Killer. So, he lost too.

 

[HA001]

Zoro and KIller looked equal Not to mention, Killer was nerfed hard. Zoro still fainted, because of Killer. So, he lost too.

They didnt look equal at all.
He matched a 2 sword zoro. Zoro has 3 sword and 9 sword styles that raise his level.
Killer wasnt nerfed at all he had a smile.
Yasu has proven two chapters ago that means nothing when he saved the alliance.
Killer is physically weaker than zoro flexing his chest thats a fact.
And was one shot by 3 sword zoro.

 

[Kejon]

Killer wasnt nerfed at all he had a smile.

Killer was tortured by Orochi and became his slave. He got insane and was fed a smile. He was nerfed hard. They looked equal, so stop this nonsense.

Killer is physically weaker than zoro flexing his chest thats a fact.

In a fair 1 vs. 1, It could go both ways. Zoro could win or Killer could win.

 

[Kejon]

Could you tell us why after the fight we had the glurrg sfx ?

You can take your time to find some bullshit

That's irrelevant.

Killer wounded Zoro and then he fainted, because of that attack.

 

[HA001]

Killer was tortured by Orochi and became his slave. He got insane and was fed a smile. He was nerfed hard. They looked equal, so stop this nonsense.


In a fair 1 vs. 1, It could go both ways. Zoro could win or Killer could win.

No killer was working to save kidd as your beloved hawkins said. Save his childhood friend. Hed never be more motivated. He wasnt insane at all. If he was he couldnt follow orders.

No in a fair one v one killer gets stomped hard.

 

[ZoroMazino]

That's irrelevant.

Killer wounded Zoro and then he fainted, because of that attack.

Yeah of course Oda will put the "glurrg" like this because he wanted to put it here

And you already know it but we had the same thing with Luffy in WCI but you're right it's irrelevant

Sanji-Fan sasuga

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

that he was hungry

I do not understand why people make threads bases on WRONG TRANSLATION

For fucks sake.

@Monkey D Theories Can't you at least use the correct translations for your wrong theories

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Nah its just a plot hole

No it's a wrong translation that everybody seems to think is true

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

In universe: Zoro faint because blood loss + empty stomach make people faint.

No blood loss isn't a factor. Zoro's lost more blood than that and not passed out. Plus he wasn't given more blood so blood loss would've remained a factor if it mattered.

However Zoro has passed out from hunger before so there's a precedent for that. So the only actual factor is the one Oda chose to highlight. Which is hunger.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

So plot demanded Zoro got Usopp level endurance at that point.

No four days of hunger is what made Zoro pass out. He literally asks for food right before the figting starts and then there's this

 

[Rivaille]

No blood loss isn't a factor. Zoro's lost more blood than that and not passed out. Plus he wasn't given more blood so blood loss would've remained a factor if it mattered.

However Zoro has passed out from hunger before so there's a precedent for that. So the only actual factor is the one Oda chose to highlight. Which is hunger.

I said « blood loss + hunger » I did not say « blood loss only ».

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

The goat Toei will clear it for us

You mean the official isn't clear enough

If the official isn't clear then let's use the Japanese raws

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Why are we back on this again..?? I thought this debate ended along with OJ.
And No, Killer didn’t used any poison. Even Zoro himself admitted it was due to him being careless.

Zoro admitted nothing. Hiyori regrets Zoro got injured because of her. Zoro says it wasn't her fault and the blame is on him for getting careless

Zoro never mentions why he passed out and the conversation never goes to that

Oda chose to show why Zoro passes out in the panel of Zoro passing out

 

[Finalbeta]

Hunger is a common manga dynamic, I don't get such an heated debate. There's nothing wrong or weird about it.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Killer managed to land a hit on Zoro and that was Zoro's mistake not some hunger ...

So you mean Zoro wasn't hungry before the fight started? Or are you saying hunger played no part in the entire thing

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Hunger>>>Killer

Exactly. Killer was so weak that a hunt Zoro with two swords in a 2v1 still one shotted him and then Oda makes sure to tell us that Hunger is the reason Zoro passes out.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Oh, and he lost to Hawkins too

Is that why Hawkins managed to capture Zoro and Luffy since he won. And then Otama died in the desert right? I remember that in chapter 420 of two piece

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Hawkins stopped chasing, because of his cards telling him to stop. If he wanted, he could continue

So he won?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It wasn't just hunger. Had he not taken that injury (that happened in a 2v1) he wouldn't have fainted, the loss of blood played a role.
That's why when you give your blood, you also need to eat something.
He didn't just faint because he was hungry.

So why did Oda have Zoro asking for food before the fight started and then put the hunger SFX in literally the panel of Zoro passing out

Like what do you think Oda is trying tell us when he puts these two things in the exact panel together with each other

Also I've given blood. It doesn't make you hungry. It just makes you generally weak.

 

[Jackteo]

Let's use logic instead.
Yasu bought to him some sushi the day before and we have seen Zoro eat on a boat when he received the news about Luffy's defeat. He escaped for days from the samurai looking for him eating poisonous meat, resulting in him having just a tummy ache.
Zoro fought without any difficulties until Kamazo stabbed him and then he proceeded with defeating him.
After that his last words where "damn, i got injured before the final battle" and he fainted.

The day after that he was screaming for the wound on his shoulder. Therefore i ask you, how long would you continue with this starving thing before you accept it was just a (bad) plot device and that the starving excuse makes no sense?
He just fainted for the wound because Oda needed that, there is no shame in that