Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Zolo]

He ended it very clearly when a character compared Shanks & Mihawk in Swordsmanship.

They wouldn't do that if Shanks wasn't a Swordsman.

I can compare swordsmanship of any character to any character, that wont define anything. If he told hes sttonger than shanks that would end it . But only told better in swordsmanship

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

So when Kaido cut Orochi he was WSS at the moment ? Than what King meant he isnt swordsman when hes main weapon was sword?

King was a devil fruit users, a sword user, etc.

Kaido priorities using his haki, devil fruit and club.

Shanks strictly only uses his swords and haki.

Kings point makes sense. But it cannot apply to Shanks since 1. Blades are his main fighting style 2 he doesn't have a devil fruit. 3 is highlighted as being a swordsman since mihawk is the swordman greater than him.

 

[Rootbeer]

Daily reminder that being a captain means you have the biggger bounty boost than "subordinate" so if Mihawk were to become a YK and captain his bounty would be considerably higher than his current one

Perhaps but it's also a Guild not a pirate Crew..

 

[Nerve74]

He was a mere Yonko at Marineford and he was in Mihawks face so he might as well give it a go without caring much.. He does not think that Shanks is beneath him Mihawk just doesn't want to sword duel him because he lost an arm..

This "Mihawk is bigot against disabled people" is probably the dumbest head canon Shanks fans have.

 

[ConquistadoR]

I can compare swordsmanship of any character to any character, that wont define anything. If he told hes sttonger than shanks that would end it . But only told better in swordsmanship

Once again, it's kinda retarded to compare the Swordsmanship of Luffy & Zoro because Luffy ISNT A SWORDSMAN.
If that comparision is made between Shanks & Mihawk, then Shanks is definitely a Swordsman. And Mihawk is the STRONGEST Swordsman.

 

[Seth]

King was a devil fruit users, a sword user, etc.

Kaido priorities using his haki, devil fruit and club.

Shanks strictly only uses his swords and haki.

Kings point makes sense. But it cannot apply to Shanks since 1. Blades are his main fighting style 2 he doesn't have a devil fruit. 3 is highlighted as being a swordsman since mihawk is the swordman greater than him.

If you didn't participate in this thread earlier, Shanks is not a swordsman anymore, he's back to being a Hakiman because he is weaker at something than his former rival Mihawk the World's Strongest Skilled man.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Not even responding to my other point uh..

Because Jinbei is under Luffy and not in Cross Guild.. So his treat is less but he's still an ex warlord like them?.. He could talk Luffy into allying with Cross Guild?..

Also Jinbei would be right now 300 Million inflated, so if he was integrating Cross Guild it would have been 1.8 Billion, maybe 1.7 Billion?..

The Cross Guild has the same threat level as the Strawhats, the Yonkou have similar bounties, Croco has a 2B bounty and Jinbei didn't get a new bounty under BM and Luffy?

 

[Zolo]

King was a devil fruit users, a sword user, etc.

Kaido priorities using his haki, devil fruit and club.

Shanks strictly only uses his swords and haki.

Kings point makes sense. But it cannot apply to Shanks since 1. Blades are his main fighting style 2 he doesn't have a devil fruit. 3 is highlighted as being a swordsman since mihawk is the swordman greater than him.

According to this logic Fujitora and Law are defil fruit fighters now and not swordsman

 

[mrtsrdr]

I would appreciate if you learn two things.

1. Reading in english.

2. Typing in english.

1st point the most.

You literally have in the spoilers that Buggy's bounty is only this big because he is mistaken as the leader/creator of the Cross Guild in which Mihawk and Crocodile are.

Last chapter Law comments that having people as such is enough to make you a Yonko.

You don't need 30k fodders or irrelevant Commanders.

Crocodile is brains of the Cross Guild. He can fight but he ain't shit vs Top Tiers.

Mihawk is the heavy hitter.

That be 3.590b alone.

Still you are evuluating from your side. How did marine see this case ? You think marine said that

We know that buggy can not be real yonkou . Lets make gag and we can put high bounty ?

Marines see that Buggy is the former king pirates crew member , shanks buddy , impel down surviver , marineford war impacter and exwarlords with huge number of pirates group ( you know the number ? no ) . With this feats , they believed that he can control mihawk and crocodile .

I dont understand why you dont want to use your brain. You should understand you are reader . you know the what is happening in the manga and you expect that marines shoudl know what you know :))))))))))))))))))))))))))

 

[Seth]

Still you are evuluating from your side. How did marine see this case ? You think marine said that

We know that buggy can not be real yonkou . Lets make gag and we can put high bounty ?

Marines see that Buggy is the former king pirates crew member , shanks buddy , impel down surviver , marineford war impacter and exwarlords with huge number of pirates group ( you know the number ? no ) . With this feats , they believed that he can control mihawk and crocodile .

I dont understand why you dont want to use your brain. You should understand you are reader . you know the what is happening in the manga and you expect that marines shoudl know what you know :))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Learn English first. Then you can teach someone else how to read.

You can't even notice the difference between numbers.

Mihawk has 3.590b bounty, not Buggy.

He made Buggy relevant, not the other way around.

End of discussion.

Seethe and cope.

 

[Rootbeer]

This "Mihawk is bigot against disabled people" is probably the dumbest head canon Shanks fans have.

Disabled people in One Piece is not the same as real world especially when it comes to Whitebeard's caliber..

 

[mrtsrdr]

I don't agree. His bounty shouldn't have fallen. Its that Buggys should have jumped higher. It makes no sense for a subordinate to have a high bounty then his captain unless the subordinates bounty was already so high their was no need to change it. If the guild was viewed as a partnership then you could be right. But they clear think Buggy is in charge.

We dont know how marine see this foundation . Marine should have accepted as a collaboration of exwarlords . Not a crew. Because which crew use captain and subordinates photo together ?

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

I can compare swordsmanship of any character to any character, that wont define anything. If he told hes sttonger than shanks that would end it . But only told better in swordsmanship

Ahh no. Are you good at understanding English?

"Hawkeye Mihawk"!! Also a former member of the Ouka Shichibukai and a swordsman who surpasses Emperor "Red Hair" in skill. This amount is for the strongest swordsman in the world!! Bounty: 3,590,000,000 Berries!.

Nowhere in this dialogue do they state that mihawk is stronger than Shanks in just swordmanship. They state he is a swordsman whos skills surpasses Shanks. Not a person's who's sword skills surpasses Shanks. So the argument Shanks stans are trying to have makes zero sense

 

[zzShinichi]

Perhaps but it's also a Guild not a pirate Crew..

 

[mrtsrdr]

Learn English first. Then you can teach someone else how to read.

You can't even notice the difference between numbers.

Mihawk has 3.590b bounty, not Buggy.

He made Buggy relevant, not the other way around.

End of discussion.

Seethe and cope.

Muck Muck :)

 

[Mlzz]

Oden can still be Admiral level and fighting kaido who was not in his prime..

Luffy beating kaido didn't make him stronger than him, kaido was still dominating him, he didnt have to take head on Bajrang gun either.. Maybe Oden could have defeated kaido, it's up in the air..

Relatively You can tell by the narrative who is the real deal as a Yonko or not.. Mihawk could have became a Yonko but its unclear whether he would have been on par with other Yonkos power wise or not.. That's why it's also unclear if Cross Guild could rivalise with other Yonko crews or not.. lts at least as much of a treat to the Marines than a Yonko crew apparently..

Luffy surpass kaido confirmed in road to laugh tale.

Dead Luffy G5 1 serious attack beat kaido

 

[Seth]

Muck Muck :)

Learn English.

 

[Weeman]

Crocodile has mellowed out.
He actually has a soft spot for Buggy holy shit.

 

[Rootbeer]

The Cross Guild has the same threat level as the Strawhats, the Yonkou have similar bounties, Croco has a 2B bounty and Jinbei didn't get a new bounty under BM and Luffy?

Your logic doesn't add up here.. Cross guild is a pirate alliance the Strawhats are pirate crew..

 

[Nerve74]

We dont know how marine see this foundation . Marine should have accepted as a collaboration of exwarlords . Not a crew. Because which crew use captain and subordinates photo together ?

They clearly state "Mihawk and Croc obey Buggy"