Powers & Abilities Swordsmanship is All About Haki
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Putting the words of Koushirou under perspective - he's a swordsman in East Blue from Wano heritage who has never seen a CoC user in his lifetime. Even Wano citizens haven't, outside of Oden & (very possibly) Ryuma. They don't really know what Conquerors haki is.
For example, Ashura Doji sees Luffy unconsciously knock out fodders after Kaido one-shot him and calls that "Oden-sama's trick".
Kiku sees Luffy knock out Beast Pirate goons using conquerors as they go into Bakura town to save Otama in act 1 and is stunned looking at that.
Kozuki Oden, a CoC using swordsman from the land of Wano where flowing CoA/Ryou is commonplace, has no idea what he was hit with after Roger sends him flying with one Conquerors attack. He sees Newgate & Roger clash without touching at all and is stunned at what he sees, and has no idea what they are using.
Later he comes back out of his journey being much stronger than what he was before by learning what he couldn't in Wano - the ability to infuse his attacks with Conquerors -> scarring Kaido feat. And even he couldn't forge a Kokuto in his lifetime, which Ryuma & (most likely) Mihawk accomplished.
It's pretty clear that infusing one's blade with conquerors haki is a necessity for anyone who wants to reach the pinnacle of swordsmanship. Forging a kokuto as a feat comes even after that most likely given what the sample space we have indicates (Oden, Zoro). And in that way, Cinera is right.
Koushirou was only talking from what he & his ancestors know, they don't even know the existence of a stronger form of Haki in some select, gifted individuals so that's what his knowledge is limited by.
For example, Ashura Doji sees Luffy unconsciously knock out fodders after Kaido one-shot him and calls that "Oden-sama's trick".
Kiku sees Luffy knock out Beast Pirate goons using conquerors as they go into Bakura town to save Otama in act 1 and is stunned looking at that.
Kozuki Oden, a CoC using swordsman from the land of Wano where flowing CoA/Ryou is commonplace, has no idea what he was hit with after Roger sends him flying with one Conquerors attack. He sees Newgate & Roger clash without touching at all and is stunned at what he sees, and has no idea what they are using.
Later he comes back out of his journey being much stronger than what he was before by learning what he couldn't in Wano - the ability to infuse his attacks with Conquerors -> scarring Kaido feat. And even he couldn't forge a Kokuto in his lifetime, which Ryuma & (most likely) Mihawk accomplished.
It's pretty clear that infusing one's blade with conquerors haki is a necessity for anyone who wants to reach the pinnacle of swordsmanship. Forging a kokuto as a feat comes even after that most likely given what the sample space we have indicates (Oden, Zoro). And in that way, Cinera is right.
Koushirou was only talking from what he & his ancestors know, they don't even know the existence of a stronger form of Haki in some select, gifted individuals so that's what his knowledge is limited by.
I think it's a misunderstanding. There is a subtle difference b/w saying "swordsmanship is all about Haki" and saying "Haki is all about swordsmanship." I don't agree with the statement completely but he's not necessarily wrong completely. If he said Haki is all about swordsmanship then we can use the Luffy argument.
54 people believe Mihawk can surpass Shanks Haki
Shanks as of now has THE BEST on screen Haki feat. his feats humbles Roger, Whitebeard and Kaido ...
Mihawk as of now has close to non on screen Haki feat
damn it
back then Shanks fandom was the party of hopes and fate
Mihawk fandom surpassed us in that ... ONLY
Shanks as of now has THE BEST on screen Haki feat. his feats humbles Roger, Whitebeard and Kaido ...
Mihawk as of now has close to non on screen Haki feat
damn it
back then Shanks fandom was the party of hopes and fate
Mihawk fandom surpassed us in that ... ONLY
It does among swordsmen.
Zoro's Haoshoku blooming in Wano suggests that it is.
Black Blades are not forged that way. Master Swordsmen need to forge their blades black.
Someone made Yoru black, and the most likely culprit is Mihawk.
Zoro's Haoshoku blooming in Wano suggests that it is.
- Zoro's "Kingly ambitions"
- King thought him a contender for the throne of the Pirate King
- Zoro needed to unlock Haoshoku to tame Enma
- It was Haoshoku that allowed Oden to wield Enma as if it were as light as a feather
- Zoro unlocking Haoshoku coating
- "King of Hell"
- Zoro's statement that he will become "the King of Hell"
Black Blades are not forged that way. Master Swordsmen need to forge their blades black.
Someone made Yoru black, and the most likely culprit is Mihawk.
The ending of Wano may have been a great let down but I’ll be forever grateful for the arc giving us ACoC using King of Hell Zoro in it.
Zoro’s biggest powerup since Asura being CoC is a balm to my soul and provides endless hours of fun watching the slabbering ravings of people trying to pretend it‘s meaningless. Zoro the Hakiman, just like Shanks. Delightful stuff
Zoro’s biggest powerup since Asura being CoC is a balm to my soul and provides endless hours of fun watching the slabbering ravings of people trying to pretend it‘s meaningless. Zoro the Hakiman, just like Shanks. Delightful stuff