Break Week This Nonsensical Yonko Bounty Cope needs to stop

What is the biggest reason for Shanks bounty


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#42
Blackbeard

Bounty Given: 2,247,600,000

1. Gained Might New Followers through his assault on impel down 2 years ago (aka crew means nothing)
2. Expanding his territory to fill the void of whitebeard (aka Territory means nothing)

Relevant bonus (not mentioned directly in panels discussing bounties)
- Was on whitebeards crew
- Beat WB remnants led by Marco
- Has 2 Devil fruits which is unique to only him

Ain't it pretty easy to identify what bounties actually mean combat abilities and threat to the government like marine hunting.

:arnoling::arnoling::arnoling:
Fixed the bonuses to things that aren't fodder or flat out untrue.

Now, why do you think BB has half as much bounty as Shanks?
 

Seatonnes

playing Marvel Rivals
#43
Fixed the bonuses to things that aren't fodder or flat out untrue.
Ahhh yes ace definitely wasnt beaten by blackbeard and sent to impel down
Blackbeard Killed Thatch, i will give you whitebeard but they 100% did the most damage to whitebeard


Beat Bonney and her crew (this is the only somewhat fodder thing)


Blackbeard Pirates made the revos flee
 
#44
Ahhh yes ace definitely wasnt beaten by blackbeard and sent to impel down
Blackbeard Killed Thatch, i will give you whitebeard but they 100% did the most damage to whitebeard


Beat Bonney and her crew (this is the only somewhat fodder thing)


Blackbeard Pirates made the revos flee
I was talking about relevant stuff lol. Thatch or Bonney aren't really all that. And defeating Ace doesn't give BB much of a "threat" factor as much as "reward" factor because Ace himself was quite a fodder.

And BB will probably get a raise regarding all the recent stuff soonish, I reckon.

You didn't answer question, though.
 

Seatonnes

playing Marvel Rivals
#45
I was talking about relevant stuff lol. Thatch or Bonney aren't really all that. And defeating Ace doesn't give BB much of a "threat" factor as much as "reward" factor because Ace himself was quite a fodder.

And BB will probably get a raise regarding all the recent stuff soonish, I reckon.

You didn't answer question, though.
Ace is quite literally yc1 atleast and Thatch was still a yonko commander

I didnt answer the question, because bounties mean jack shit
 

Seatonnes

playing Marvel Rivals
#47
Ace clashes with Yamato on equal footing, draws with jinbe because water > fire (still proves hes stronger), Clashes with aokiji at marineford even tho ice > fire

How isnt he + his novels shows the ace vs oldbeard feats to be closer then previously thought (ace novel is canon)

Thatch just another fodder commander of WB.
How tho Izou the 16th commander = tobiroppo

and yes the whitebeard pirates commanders are ranked by strength (Marco > Ace > Jozu > Vista) so we can assume thatch > vista

They do with context. Pretending Oda will lolgive Mihawk 3.6b if he wasn't in Yonko realm is cope
Lmao Kid and Law arent in the yonko realm and they have 3bil each
 
#48
Ace clashes with Yamato on equal footing, draws with jinbe because water > fire (still proves hes stronger), Clashes with aokiji at marineford even tho ice > fire

How isnt he + his novels shows the ace vs oldbeard feats to be closer then previously thought (ace novel is canon)
Clashes with Base Yamato on equal footing and draws Jinbe on land :whitepress:


How tho Izou the 16th commander = tobiroppo
WB commanders aren't ranked by strength as explicitly told by Oda in SBS Vol. 59

and yes the whitebeard pirates commanders are ranked by strength (Marco > Ace > Jozu > Vista) so we can assume thatch > vista

Lmao Kid and Law arent in the yonko realm and they have 3bil each
And that's why I said context matters.

Luffy, Law, Kidd all got same amount as an measure for defeating BM + Kaido collectively. However the fuck marines concluded that- we haven't seen them discuss the bounties of these three like others yet.

If you ignore context, nothing matters of course. Robin is so high even though she's not close to Sanji. Buggy is so high even though he's fodder. Etc.

Oda explicitly putting Mihawk at 3.6b for achieving nothing fantastic of sorts (like captain trio) nor being a leader and nor a Yonko on top of only merits explained being his strength and combat power in the same chapter where he says he doesn't give a fuck about becoming Emperor. If you think that isn't narratively Yonko level, nothing is.
 

Seatonnes

playing Marvel Rivals
#49
Clashes with Base Yamato on equal footing and draws Jinbe on land :whitepress:
They fought right next to water

WB commanders aren't ranked by strength as explicitly told by Oda in SBS Vol. 59
Doesnt matter if the coincidence is right there with Marco > Ace > Jozu > Vista (so jozu > thatch > vista)

And that's why I said context matters.
Ahhh so context matters for them but not for mihawk bounty, bye bye good sir
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
#50

"as for Buggy the Bombastic Clown, considering his formidable pedigree and the fact THAT HE GOT THESE TWO TO YIELD TO HIS AUTHORITY"

See the CAPSLOCK part?
It means the bounties are post Cross Guild formation. It also means that Mihawk's bounty is his bounty as a member of Cross Guild. Remember, being in a Yonko Crew can increase your bounty by default.

It's not his strength alone.

Now, if you wanna argue that "being in Cross Guild" is maybe responsible for the 90M, while the 3.5B remaining is purely for his strength, etc, well, good luck with that.
:hapnoel:
 
#52
Blackbeard

Bounty Given: 2,247,600,000

1. Gained Might New Followers through his assault on impel down 2 years ago (aka crew means nothing)
2. Expanding his territory to fill the void of whitebeard (aka Territory means nothing)

Bonus (not mentioned directly in panels discussing bounties)
- Was on whitebeards crew
- Captured Ace
- Killed Thatch and Whitebeard
- Beat WB remnants led by Marco
- Beat Bonney and her crew
- Attacked Revolutionary Army (revos fled)
- Has 2 Devil fruits which is unique to only him

Ain't it pretty easy to identify what bounties actually mean combat abilities and threat to the government like marine hunting.

:arnoling::arnoling::arnoling:
1. WB was never the Pirate King
2. Captured Ace with Crew
3.1. Killing Thatch, Marines would rather thank BB than increase his bounty
3.2. Kill-stealing WB*
4. Beat Marco-led WB Remnants with Crew
5. Beat Bonney and her crew with BB's Crew
6. Attacked Revolutionary Army Base with Crew
7. Has 2 of the most OP DF still given lower bounty than being WSS

You're countering yourself.

All you listed are mostly BB doing them with his Crew, meaning he wasn't given bounty as high as Shanks because his crew at the time wasn't as strong as Shanks' crew.

Also, that would backfire on you.
All that "combat abilities" and threat you're saying but only given 2.2B.

While Mihawk WSS alone = 3.6B.

:steef::steef::steef:
 
#53
They fought right next to water


Doesnt matter if the coincidence is right there with Marco > Ace > Jozu > Vista (so jozu > thatch > vista)


Ahhh so context matters for them but not for mihawk bounty, bye bye good sir
Only thing is Marco > rest. Ace > Jozu > Vista is all your head-canon. SBS

And of course, the context matters for Mihawk's bounty. I admit he got inflation from Marine hunting. But the point of fact remains that he's someone in Yonko zone and only 400m behind Shanks despite not being leader of anything and having no crew under him. On top of that, Brannew only talked about his combat merits first and foremost.

Also being the only non-leader to ever surpass the bounty of not only its leader, but also a leader who is Yonko and stated to stand shoulder to shoulder with Shanks.

I'm looking a fuck-ton at the context of it. You're the one ignoring it just because it's not negative lol

"as for Buggy the Bombastic Clown, considering his formidable pedigree and the fact THAT HE GOT THESE TWO TO YIELD TO HIS AUTHORITY"

See the CAPSLOCK part?
It means the bounties are post Cross Guild formation. It also means that Mihawk's bounty is his bounty as a member of Cross Guild. Remember, being in a Yonko Crew can increase your bounty by default.

It's not his strength alone.

Now, if you wanna argue that "being in Cross Guild" is maybe responsible for the 90M, while the 3.5B remaining is purely for his strength, etc, well, good luck with that.
:hapnoel:
Almost no one reasonable is arguing that Mihawk's bounty is by strength alone. Everyone agrees he has his own inflation.

People are just arguing that it'd definitely have crossed 4b and such if he was the leader instead. And that Yonkos would definitely be a good bit lower, too, if they had no empire or crews to lead and were just part of it instead.
 
#55
Mihawk got his bounty to being part of Cross guild an alliance who's supposed to be navy hunters a direct threat to the navy as said in the chapter
He's also described as a former warlord

Don't come with Cariboo and his brothers because it's not an alliance of Former warlords and they were doing that in Paradise

So Mihawk got his bounty because :
- he did an alliance with former Warlord
- This alliance is a direct threat to Navy as they are considered to be navy hunters
- He's a former Warlord

Even Jimbei got a huge bounty inflation because he's a former warlord who is now in a Younko crew

And it's nonsensical BM currently have 85 childrens but she is Younko since 20yrs so nothing states having 85 childs had an influence on his bounty

We don't really know if the thing you listed got an influence on their bounties


We can even go further : How Marines knows Mihawk is stronger than Shanks they never fought since Shanks lost his arm ?

Shanks and Mihawk had Legendary battle then Shanks lost his arm and Mihawk or was WSS
At that time they were equal so Mihawk bounty only for strenght should be the same as 20yrs old Shanks ?
Or they just said he's stronger than Shanks but represent less a danger so 3.5 bn sounds good ?
Luffy wankers Yonko wankers and their never ending cope

No wonder everyone is making fucking of you guys

Mihawk low diffs luffy take it or leave it
 

Cinera

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#56
AT LEAST 1 Bill of Mihawk bounty is cause he joined cross guild
AT LEAST

Captains RARELY get any bounty hype for their underling
it's vise versa
  • It was stated that Mihawk's bounty was issued for his strength.
  • It was stated that Buggy's bounty is because he was able to recruit Mihawk and Crocodile.

This take is just a flat out denial of the manga.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#58
This is pure fax
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"as for Buggy the Bombastic Clown, considering his formidable pedigree and the fact THAT HE GOT THESE TWO TO YIELD TO HIS AUTHORITY"

See the CAPSLOCK part?
It means the bounties are post Cross Guild formation. It also means that Mihawk's bounty is his bounty as a member of Cross Guild. Remember, being in a Yonko Crew can increase your bounty by default.

It's not his strength alone.

Now, if you wanna argue that "being in Cross Guild" is maybe responsible for the 90M, while the 3.5B remaining is purely for his strength, etc, well, good luck with that.
:hapnoel:
That doesn't make sense
Cross Guild is only hyped because of mihawk

Buggy has 3 billion because of mihawk

And he is STILL LOWER THAN MIHAWK

Mihawk can't boost himself
 
#59
  • It was stated that Mihawk's bounty was issued for his strength.
  • It was stated that Buggy's bounty is because he was able to recruit Mihawk and Crocodile.

This take is just a flat out denial of the manga.
it wasn't stated Mihawk bounty is for power alone

- Mihawk worked for/with a group before
- Mihawk is hunted down by government
- Mihawk joined cross guild

just like ALL pirates his bounty is not just for his power
deal with reality already
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#60
it wasn't stated Mihawk bounty is for power alone

- Mihawk worked for/with a group before
- Mihawk is hunted down by government
- Mihawk joined cross guild

just like ALL pirates his bounty is not just for his power
deal with reality already
No he didnt
Sure irrelevant
Cross Guild is nothing without mihawk
You're arguing mihawk has boosted his own bounty which makes no sense
 
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