Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1059 Spoilers Discussion
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THE PACIFISTA ATTACKS TEACH AGAIN BUT HE STOPS THE SWORD WITH HIS HAKI COATED ARM.
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Prime Ray = Yonko confirmed
Current Ray ≈ Top vice admiral
General ring rust and an old failing body puts him below admirals if a fight drags out. Stamina issues, decreased agility, decreased speed, skin becoming thinner like paper and so on. Top tier fights tend do be hours or even days long.
But for 10 minutes Ray might be close to prime. And that is a big problem for BB and Kizaru who know that Ray might just take an arm in that window.
+ while Ray would have held off BB Hancock might have turned BB into stone or at the very least killed his crewmates, not easy to replace Top commanders.
Current Ray ≈ Top vice admiral
General ring rust and an old failing body puts him below admirals if a fight drags out. Stamina issues, decreased agility, decreased speed, skin becoming thinner like paper and so on. Top tier fights tend do be hours or even days long.
But for 10 minutes Ray might be close to prime. And that is a big problem for BB and Kizaru who know that Ray might just take an arm in that window.
+ while Ray would have held off BB Hancock might have turned BB into stone or at the very least killed his crewmates, not easy to replace Top commanders.
Well well looks like my theory got confirmed. Always knew Shakky was a former Amazon lily empress and that the connection between Rayleigh, Shakky and Hancock was deeper 
Oda keeps connecting Rayleigh to Hancock.
That reinforces my old theory that Rayleigh, Shakky and Hancock are related
Rayleigh said before that a baby reminded him of old days
That suggest that Rayleigh had a baby, and we know he is in a relationship with Shakky
And Shakky is 64 after the timeskip and mentioned to have left piracy 42 years ago(with the timeskip), with Hancock being 31
And considering she was chased by Garp, it suggest she was at least resonably strong and seeing how her vivre card suggest she(and Rayleigh) helped the Boa Sisters to return to Amazon lily thanks to Gloriosa(former empress of Amazon lily 3 decades ago), it implies she may have some kind of link to Amazon lily, potentially one of the 2 previous empress before Boa Hancock, who was mentioned to have gone rogued after falling in love of someone(presumably Rayleigh)
Except that since she fell in love with someone(Rayleigh) she may have been forced to leave Amazon lily.
Speaking of Rayleigh though, since he is shown in the chapter, I wonder if we see his bounty? Although the fact it's not mentioned in the spoiler kinda implies it's not the case
Looking at Hancock's bounty though, I guess Oda is continuing the trend of the Shichibukais potentially getting more threat lvl infamy, maybe due to their past connections with the world government, and in Hancock's case, also benefiting of having a country of haki users under her lead
And of course, Oda was never gonna have Luffy having a higher bounty than BB at this stage. I wonder what he did for his threat lvl bounty to be increased thol. Also having questions on the direction Oda is aiming at with Coby captured
That reinforces my old theory that Rayleigh, Shakky and Hancock are related
Rayleigh said before that a baby reminded him of old days
That suggest that Rayleigh had a baby, and we know he is in a relationship with Shakky
And Shakky is 64 after the timeskip and mentioned to have left piracy 42 years ago(with the timeskip), with Hancock being 31
And considering she was chased by Garp, it suggest she was at least resonably strong and seeing how her vivre card suggest she(and Rayleigh) helped the Boa Sisters to return to Amazon lily thanks to Gloriosa(former empress of Amazon lily 3 decades ago), it implies she may have some kind of link to Amazon lily, potentially one of the 2 previous empress before Boa Hancock, who was mentioned to have gone rogued after falling in love of someone(presumably Rayleigh)
Except that since she fell in love with someone(Rayleigh) she may have been forced to leave Amazon lily.
Speaking of Rayleigh though, since he is shown in the chapter, I wonder if we see his bounty? Although the fact it's not mentioned in the spoiler kinda implies it's not the case
Looking at Hancock's bounty though, I guess Oda is continuing the trend of the Shichibukais potentially getting more threat lvl infamy, maybe due to their past connections with the world government, and in Hancock's case, also benefiting of having a country of haki users under her lead
And of course, Oda was never gonna have Luffy having a higher bounty than BB at this stage. I wonder what he did for his threat lvl bounty to be increased thol. Also having questions on the direction Oda is aiming at with Coby captured
Yeah, the man who got scared off by Rayleigh's mere presence, and was visibly shook and afraid as per spoilers.
That's literally what Rayleigh said. If you're agreeing with the fact that Ray thinks he can't beat him, then agree with the fact that Ray thinks only reason behind that is age.
Don't be a retard on copium. It's embarrassing.
prime ray beat BB ? An other if and speculation 
Don't be a retard on copium. It's embarrassing.
BB did not go to the island at the time of a marine invitation without knowing the risks. He knows what the Navy can do and he knows what Hancock can do. He was still willing to risk fighting them both to get his hands on her fruit. You haven't been paying attention if you think BB would've just backed off as soon as Hancock turns his underlings back to normal. He knew the risks and was ready to sacrifice them if necessary. Rayleigh's involvement is what made things too risky for him, which is the major reason why he backed off.
You talk about the BB ? The man fought garp + sengoku pre T.S
prime ray beat BB ? An other if and speculation
prime ray beat BB ? An other if and speculation
The man who fought Blackbeard + his entire crew? lol.
You can tell somebody is anime watcher only, when they say "man fought garp + sengoku".. In the manga Garp had just rolled up his sleeves to get into the fight by the time Shanks came in.
Sengoku alone was handling Teach & His entire squad prior to that.
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