This isn't DMS Kakashi just in case. Kakashi's kamui pre DMS is pretty much useless, his aim was terrible he wouldn't risk losing his consciousness over a kamui that might or might not hit, against a guy who has 15 times his chakra reserves. The difference in chakra is too big for Kakashi to do anything.
They don't beat pain, Itachi genjutsus Minato into the next world. Genjutsu is more broken than these.
Tobi has teleportation too besides his different jutsu arsenal, plus the fact that he was equal to MS Izuna. Obito is far more broken tho, I always had trouble picturing him fight. He was severely nerfed by Kishi against Minato, was young too.
Tobi has teleportation too besides his different jutsu arsenal, plus the fact that he was equal to MS Izuna. Obito is far more broken tho, I always had trouble picturing him fight. He was severely nerfed by Kishi against Minato, was young too.
Minto is also a sensory type, so he can sense the chakra building up in the eyes and act accordingly. Obito's genjutsu was good enough to control Kyubi and a perfect Jinchuriki but the dude didn't even attempt it against Minato. He wasn't nerfed against Minato. Minato is simply faster, which is what matters the most in a battle b/w teleportation users, while Obito has a much better ability.