The baiting Room

[Gol D. Roger]

This isn't DMS Kakashi just in case. Kakashi's kamui pre DMS is pretty much useless, his aim was terrible he wouldn't risk losing his consciousness over a kamui that might or might not hit, against a guy who has 15 times his chakra reserves. The difference in chakra is too big for Kakashi to do anything.

Kakashi doesn't need DMS to beat Kisame. Chakra reserves don't matter if you don't have good enough counters for your enemy's abilities. 4th Raikage's chakra pool is as high as that of a Bijju but he apparently couldn't best Minato even with Bee's help. His Kamui was only bad at the beginning of the Shippuden. He got better over time and he's using it almost on par with Obito in the war.

They don't beat pain, Itachi genjutsus Minato into the next world. Genjutsu is more broken than these.

Tobi has teleportation too besides his different jutsu arsenal, plus the fact that he was equal to MS Izuna. Obito is far more broken tho, I always had trouble picturing him fight. He was severely nerfed by Kishi against Minato, was young too.

They both beat Pain. They can virtually counter every single ability in their arsenal. Obito would beat them rather easily compared to Minato because of Kamui. Minato is more than smart enough to avoid genjutsu; he grew up with the Uchihas, and he's not an arrogant prick, unlike Orochimaru. Even someone as bold as 4th Raikage wasn't falling for Genjutsu against Sasuke when he was paying attention.

Minto is also a sensory type, so he can sense the chakra building up in the eyes and act accordingly. Obito's genjutsu was good enough to control Kyubi and a perfect Jinchuriki but the dude didn't even attempt it against Minato. He wasn't nerfed against Minato. Minato is simply faster, which is what matters the most in a battle b/w teleportation users, while Obito has a much better ability.

 

[Cream filled donut7]

Is Drumz a new leaker or sumth?

 

[theonlydoffymingo]

konan or hinata who’s stronger?

 

[Tensub]

Is Drumz a new leaker or sumth?

He runs TCBscans

 

[Embers Kaios]

I remember that among the captains, This guy stood out the most to me

He reminded me somewhat of Virgil from Devil May Cry. At least in terms of demeanor and appearance

 

[Hanzo hattori]

Is Drumz a new leaker or sumth?

He works with TCB

 

[theonlydoffymingo]

Is Drumz a new leaker or sumth?

leaker with reliability issues

 

[Welkin]

I remember that among the captains, This guy stood out the most to me

He reminded me somewhat of Virgil from Ddvil May Cry. At least in terms of demeanor and appearance

Did you never finish Bleach?

 

[Rootbeer]

Thankfully that is never gonna happen because Mihawk is stronger than Lhanks.

What's never going to happen is Carrot joining the crew.. But Mihawk not being that great can very much happen..

 

[Cream filled donut7]

He runs TCBscans

Ah ok, im guessing all of them lot get all the chapters they are translating early from a source they have or other leakers? They might even pay leakers so they can have them early, who knows

 

[SakazOuki]

Kurapika and Meruem not included for obvious reasons

 

[MonsterZoro]

I will pay for McDonald’s meat up with all the money I making as a spoiler provider plus I got free employees discount

 

[Embers Kaios]

Did you never finish Bleach?

No, not yet. I wanted to wait until the anime finished

The only manga i read currently is One Piece
I’m sure Hitsugaya did some crazy things in the final war though

 

[shnksq]

konan or hinata who’s stronger?

Konana never compare loserrs to the beauty’s queen

 

[Cream filled donut7]

Kurapika and Meruem not included for obvious reasons

Ur C tier is more a mixture of A and B

 

[Abdo]

@Mr. Reloaded Is Shanks in the chapter?

 

[Seven7]

Kakashi doesn't need DMS to beat Kisame. Chakra reserves don't matter if you don't have good enough counters for your enemy's abilities. 4th Raikage's chakra pool is as high as that of a Bijju but he apparently couldn't best Minato even with Bee's help. His Kamui was only bad at the beginning of the Shippuden. He got better over time and he's using it almost on par with Obito in the war.



They both beat Pain. They can virtually counter every single ability in their arsenal. Obito would beat them rather easily compared to Minato because of Kamui. Minato is more than smart enough to avoid genjutsu; he grew up with the Uchihas, and he's not an arrogant prick, unlike Orochimaru. Even someone as bold as 4th Raikage wasn't falling for Genjutsu against Sasuke when he was paying attention.

Minto is also a sensory type, so he can sense the chakra building up in the eyes and act accordingly. Obito's genjutsu was good enough to control Kyubi and a perfect Jinchuriki but the dude didn't even attempt it against Minato. He wasn't nerfed against Minato. Minato is simply faster, which is what matters the most in a battle b/w teleportation users, while Obito has a much better ability.

Naruto Powerscaling

 

[Welkin]

No, not yet. I wanted to wait until the anime finished

The only manga i read currently is One Piece
I’m sure Hitsugaya did some crazy things in the final war though

Oh you're in for a treat

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Well here's the thing, why can he summon the fox in the first place? Because he's trapped in his genjutsu, that's what Minato broke. When he broke it Kurama was set free then got restrained by Kushina.
The summoning is flavor here, what binds 9tails to Obito is genjutsu.

???!?!?!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

What cope is this shit argument.

Say the name outloud;

CONTRACT (as in summoning contract)
SEAL (as in, its sealed & blocked off)

Doing this broke the genjutsu on the Kyuubi and prevented it from being summoned again by Obito.

The irregularity of the seal is what breaks the genjutsu;

Spoiler

Lady Chiyo even reinforces that attacking the user will burst genjutsu.

Spoiler

The odds are what we already know

So zilch they're favoring Tobirama given every circumstance and the usage of the Edo Tensei.

Minato complimented Tobi during the war too, hell he made his jutsu his signature move. Tobi outclasses him in pretty much every category, besides being slightly less versatile in FTG, which shouldn't be a problem considering Tobi knows it in and out.

Teleporting barriers, being faster as documented by Tobirama, being quicker on the draw / better at utilizing it... You're comparing an old gen iphone to the newest model here.

I don't about these translations, I always gave Madara the benefit of the doubt and had him slightly above Izuna, but still a near equal is warranted in a case like this.

Okay so the entire translation of Izuna=Madz comes from this user. Either take their new comments at face value or toss away the old translation. There's no other reference to this parity of power between the brothers.

Secondly, the translator states;

“Following after Madara in ability (lit. true power, force), Izuna accomplished a great number of military achievements.”
or
“Second to Madara in ability (lit. true power, force), Izuna accomplished a great number of military achievements.”

The nuance I get here, is that Izuna’s power/ability level does indeed come second to Madara’s. There is a difference in ability between the brothers. It is not equal. Near equal, perhaps. But Madara is still superior than Izuna while Izuna was alive.

The translation puts Izuna behind Madara and the translator is even hesitant to say near equal and reinforces the statement with this;

But Madara is still superior than Izuna while Izuna was alive.

The take away is that Izuna was second to Madara and there's nothing concrete to be used to argue parity between the Uchiha brothers.

 

[Embers Kaios]

Kurapika and Meruem not included for obvious reasons

Not sure why neferpitou is above ging when ging’s kid had as much potential as meruem