General & Others the swordsmen debate

As far as the WSS title goes, there are more parallels between Mihawk and Rayleigh. Like Rayleigh wearing the same clothing in his prime and there even being a debate about Rayleigh being Mihawk's father.

Technically, everyone is a swordsman who uses a sword in battle. But I think as for the WSS, it is primarily between those, whose strongest asset is swordsmanship.

King for example would fall under that. He has a DF, but it's a zoan which boosts his physical stats and swordsmanship. As for Fujitora and Kizaru, I don't think Mihawk would be interested in that kind of battle, because their strongest asset is not swordsmanship related. For Fujitora, swordsmanship is like a side power, with him mainly using gravity for combat. Same with Kizaru. A sword is just a side power, he mainly uses laser bombardment, let alone what his awakening might be.

It wouldn't make sense for Mihawk to lose his title after being buried under gravity, just because the opponent happens to have a blade, which is an inferior power to his gravity power. If Fujitora had Kinemon's DF, he would very well fall under the WSS narrative, because swordsmanship is his strongest asset.

I think it makes no sense to just assume everyone is under Mihawk who happens to use a blade. It would make the WSS title too important in the story, since virtually every top tier from this and the past eras use swords. But Oda made clear that the WSS path stands beneath the pirate king path.

That's why we only heard of Shanks being Mihawk's rival at some point in time. But we don't hear of Kizaru, Fujitora (who wasn't a marine up until recently), Big Mom & co. being affiliated with Mihawk in any sort. We have never heard their name in the same context. In the novel, when marines debated about who the strongest swordsman might be, they also compared Mihawk, Shanks, Zoro and Vista based on their techniques. But you haven't heard of Kizaru, Fujitora or Big Mom being compared to them.
 
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Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
I love the fact you people don't even consider the damage control for your own sake

if that be the case and Bisento be a sword Mihawk is fucked ... cause Prime beard > Mihawk ...

but I guess Mihawk fandom can say Mihawk > PB

if you can claim Roger was WSS ... indeed there is no end for your bullshit
I said it's not confirmed or clear not that it's unlikely or impossible. Who is under damage control exactly.
 
Lmao, nice mental gymnastics. :suresure:
"wah, wah, idk what WSS means"
no ... but the fact you can't write those words on internet is a shock compare to your brain capability

no ... no one know the standards one should have to be the WSS
it's not about over all power
maybe it's black blade ...
but no one who cause Oda never said or implied

p.s

WSM title hold more value than WSS

but before Whitebeard get the title no one had it
right now ... no one have it

so saying a title should be always ongoing is stupid shit like always
 
I love the fact how full of shit Mihawk fandom are


Me on 2019 : trying to prove to this shit heads that Roger was a swordsman cause story showed us that

Me on 2020 : trying to prove to this shit heads that Roger wasn't WSS cause story showed never us that
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
no ... but the fact you can't write those words on internet is a shock compare to your brain capability

no ... no one know the standards one should have to be the WSS
it's not about over all power
maybe it's black blade ...
but no one who cause Oda never said or implied

p.s

WSM title hold more value than WSS
but before Whitebeard get the title no one had it
right now ... no one have it
so saying a title should be always ongoing is stupid shit like always
Lmao, you have 0 arguments and only trying to wiggle around by playing dumb and saying idk what WSS means.
Everyone knows what WSS means, stop playing dumb.
Strongest swordsman in the world means a swordsman who is stronger than all other swordsmen.

Stop playing dumb. Point a finger at swordsman stronger than Roger if you plan to convince anyone that Roger isnt strongest swordsman in the world of that area. WSM, WSC and WSS always exist, stop playing dumb, you are not 12 anymore...
 
Stop playing dumb. Point a finger at swordsman stronger than Roger if you plan to convince anyone that Roger isnt strongest swordsman in the world of that area. WSM, WSC and WSS always exist, stop playing dumb, you are not 12 anymore...
I have to Point a finger at swordsman stronger than Roger when story told us WSS is about over all power

but story never did
but story didn't even tried to show us that by giving that title to Roger ... and in fact prove that otherwise

so your fan fiction don't interest me ...


less talk ... more panel
 
all people who use swords ... are swordsman
Yeah I agree with that makes perfect sense.
but WSS ... is not about overall power ... and Roger is a walking proof for that cause he wasn't ... manga fact
I personally think it’s too soon for us to go ahead and claim if he was or wasn’t the WSS of his era, Oda is with holding info.

Before Roger was proved to be a swordsman people were on their high horse he wasn’t one but they got proven wrong at this point and time it’s best to play the waiting game.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
I have to Point a finger at swordsman stronger than Roger when story told us WSS is about over all power
but story never did
but story didn't even tried to show us that by giving that title to Roger ... and in fact prove that otherwise
so your fan fiction don't interest me ...
less talk ... more panel
I am sorry but story never told us that WSS isnt about "overall power". That is your fanfiction to avoid the truth.
Hakiman is also your fanfiction. You will probably come up with more mental gymnastics just to avoid the obvious.
Less headcanon and more common sense. You are looking ridiculous by saying "idk what WSS means".
Yes, you know what it means. You just choose to play dumb.
 
Yeah I agree with that makes perfect sense.
I personally think it’s too soon for us to go ahead and claim if he was or wasn’t the WSS of his era, Oda is with holding info.

Before Roger was proved to be a swordsman people were on their high horse he wasn’t one but they got proven wrong at this point and time it’s best to play the waiting game.
people had high horse he wasn’t one cause they were stupid

when story show us some thing ... why would it change itself in future? for sake of some fandoms?


Oda never hold back titles ... he always showed us the title of a person in the very fist box we got from them in their official interduciton

Roger is way past that ... we saw his back story !!


the logical claim is : Roger is not WSS until proven otherwise

but this people are like

Roger is WSS ...

how can this claim be proven otherwise?
if Oda never give him that title in manga and SBS ?
it's true cause they said so and nothing can prove it otherwise?

this is a cry for help
 
I personally think it’s too soon for us to go ahead and claim if he was or wasn’t the WSS of his era, Oda is with holding info.
There are some parallels between Mihawk and Rayleigh. For example Rayleigh having the same clothing as Mihawk. It's also not far fetched that Mihawk is Rayleigh's son. But there are no parallels between Mihawk and Roger. The PK seat is a level above the WSS seat according to Mihawk himself. He separates himself from Roger. The WSS title would encompass too many characters, since almost all top tiers make use of a blade. But as Luffy said, a PKs right hand man could accomplish at least as much as becoming the WSS. And you think Zoro is going end up surpassing Roger strength wise? I don't believe that.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
it didn't made Roger WSS ...
it never told us the meaning of title ...
and it's not ...
and I don't think you should have the right to say the word "fan fiction"
for the same reason brainless brainson , grandson of stupid stupidson don't have the right to talk about logic
Still playing dumb I see...
lol .... you talking about logic is like a monkey talk about AI
it's known ... until we know more about known
not
it's unknown ... until ....
More mental gymnastics...

Number 1/2 of the verse is a swordsman but isnt a strongest swordsman... You outdid yourself again. Congratulations.
 
Still playing dumb I see...

More mental gymnastics...

Number 1/2 of the verse is a swordsman but isnt a strongest swordsman... You outdid yourself again. Congratulations.
the fact you even assume I'm the one with shit argument prove you are even lower than a monkey

a man who want to prove his fan fiction about WSS meaning by making a fan fiction about Roger is WSS

shouldn't have the right to use internet .... you are a danger to human race.... you make the entire world IQ drop ....

and by the way

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proof
it can help you

while your are on it search for known and unknown
for meaning of logic
and if you still didn't find any difrrence in yourself

search for fastest way to end your life


either ways work for me
 
Roger is way past that ... we saw his back story !!
No.
We did not see Rogers backstory yet, we’ve seen Odens which Roger(dying) managed to be a part of.
Roger is WSS ...

how can this claim be proven otherwise?
if Oda never give him that title in manga and SBS ?
it's true cause they said so and nothing can prove it otherwise?

this is a cry for help
You’re jumping the gun.

There hasn’t been much info dumps on Roger and there are still many questions.

Again before making bold claims we should wait.

I understand where on one side of the fandom can say that Roger is WSS of that era since the only people capable of contending with Roger a Swordsman was Whitebeard (WSM) & Garp (possibly Sengoku)

I also understand your point of view that Roger had a infobox that he is a Great Pirate.

So why not use that opportunity to show that he is WSS

But then again Mihawks original infobox didn’t show he was a shichibukai just that he was WSS so again Oda can withhold info, best option right now is to wait
 
No.
We did not see Rogers backstory yet, we’ve seen Odens which Roger(dying) managed to be a part of.

You’re jumping the gun.

There hasn’t been much info dumps on Roger and there are still many questions.

Again before making bold claims we should wait.

I understand where on one side of the fandom can say that Roger is WSS of that era since the only people capable of contending with Roger a Swordsman was Whitebeard (WSM) & Garp (possibly Sengoku)

I also understand your point of view that Roger had a infobox that he is a Great Pirate.

So why not use that opportunity to show that he is WSS

But then again Mihawks original infobox didn’t show he was a shichibukai just that he was WSS so again Oda can withhold info, best option right now is to wait

sure ...you can wait for this to be proven .... wait as long as you want ....

just don't come and claim Roger was WSS ... cause I hate a stupid fan fiction
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
the fact you even assume I'm the one with shit argument prove you are even lower than a monkey
a man who want to prove his fan fiction about WSS meaning by making a fan fiction about Roger is WSS
shouldn't have the right to use internet .... you are a danger to human race.... you make the entire world IQ drop ....
and by the way

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proof
it can help you

while your are on it search for known and unknown
for meaning of logic
and if you still didn't find any difrrence in yourself
search for fastest way to end your life
either ways work for me
Forget the monkeys, they cant help you wiggle out of this...
Roger is nr1/2 of the verse and he is a swordsman. Those are facts.

All you have are a thousand headcanons how to disprove Roger the nr1/2 of the verse who happens to be a swordsman as the strongest swordsman and not a single one of them is helping you because you cant disprove the obvious. More luck next try.
 
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