General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Random_Kurozumi]

She is still a little girl. Wrong manga bro

After getting every point you made refuted by examples of the manga itself, that's the best comeback you could come up with?
One Piece is fantasy adventure manga, Luffy's adventure is filled with child-like wonder, it's not your stock edgy, teenager fantasy filled, battle shounen power fantasy. Take a minute reflect that your argument that One Piece would get too dark for Tama is coming right after the most serious and build up fight we ever had turned into a looney tunes cartoon.
Honestly, it might be you that is reading the wrong manga.

 

[ShiShiShi]

None of them have a chance.

Caribou is a irredeemable villain (like Caesar) who was captured by a bigger villain's subordinate. Luffy saved Caribou thinking Caribou wouldn't do anything funny in Wano and be useful which was true. But we shall see how long Caribou stays but it's likely Caribou will get separated from the Strawhats again to go spill the beans of the Ancient Weapons to whoever is being alluded to.

Vivi is not joining the Strawhats more so then she already has as an unofficial Strawhat number 5.5. Oda planned ALL of the crewmates and how Vivi has been developed does not point to being a future official crewmate.

Having joke characters isn't a big deal until they take spots from those that are believed to have a shot at joining, no matter how slim the chance the opposition believes otherwise.

Or he's alive alive.. As alive as Pell.

It's not the same. I pointed out a possibility from Pedro's words to Luffy. Also mentioned that Luffy did not see any Sulong transformation in WCI or Wano. That's is strange so it leaves another time for Luffy to see the transformation. The shock value is gone especially if Luffy first sees Sulong from a Mink we have already seen transform.

Besides Pedro isn't irrelevant to Luffy as Luffy tends to forget or rather not care to remember what is not important to him.

Vivi has a chance, but a slim chance.

She could travel with them for an arc and that would be it. The purpose of this I don't know, but before the Reverie she wondered to herself if she was gonna see them again. They're gonna meet again at some point, but only Oda knows when and where.

At this point of the story, Yamato (or Carrot... maybe) has a better chance of joining.

 

[Staticshadic]

After getting every point you made refuted by examples of the manga itself, that's the best comeback you could come up with?
One Piece is fantasy adventure manga, Luffy's adventure is filled with child-like wonder, it's not your stock edgy, teenager fantasy filled, battle shounen power fantasy. Take a minute reflect that your argument that One Piece would get too dark for Tama is coming right after the most serious and build up fight we ever had turned into a looney tunes cartoon.
Honestly, it might be you that is reading the wrong manga.

how many times has she been nearly been killed by the enemies

 

[RobinsFeet]

@Random_Kurozumi

She is 8 years old...

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

how many times has she been nearly been killed by the enemies

three that I can think of, that only servers to further disprove the point of Oda not wanting to write her in dangerous situations.
Ninjas are specialized in avoiding direct conflict so she should be fine after her training

@Random_Kurozumi

She is 8 years old...

and she saved the raid
and Shanks and Buggy were 9
stop applying your real life beliefs of being protective of children to a fantasy adventure manga aimed at teens
and stop underestimating O-Tama

 

[Staticshadic]

three that I can think off, that only servers to further disprove the point of Oda not wanting to write her in dangerous situations.
Ninjas are specialized in avoiding direct conflict so she should be fine after her training


and she saved the raid
and Shanks and Buggy were 9
stop applying your real life beliefs of being protective of children to a fantasy adventure manga aimed at teens
and stop underestimating O-Tama

Kaido, big mom, ulti, possible queen, and finally Holed'em
Imagine blackboard, imu, and akainu sense justice for what they would do to her.

there. As Zoro says, they are not pretending to be pirates. This is not a game anymore.

Taking children on the crew, who do not even have any form of fight skilling whatsoever, is way too risky for them where they are heading towards. So why do you want the straw hats to be put in situations where they have babysat a child and put other characters at risk?

 

[Warback]

Again Tama already took part in a war against two emperors at the same time and did more than both Yamato and Carrot combined. Put your bias aside and read the manga. Last week's episode alone showed Tama getting beaten up by hybrid Ulti and there was lot more blood in the source material.

Her power was purposely designed to be convinient in this arc.

Also no she did not do more than Yamato, wtf Yamato fough agaisnt Kaido

Also what happens when theres no animals she can't control? She dies?

 

[Peppercore]

tama fans r truly galaxy brained

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

tama fans r truly galaxy brained

You ain't seen the half of it

This is Kurozumi being tame.

 

[Berry Rich]

Vivi has a chance, but a slim chance.

She could travel with them for an arc and that would be it. The purpose of this I don't know, but before the Reverie she wondered to herself if she was gonna see them again. They're gonna meet again at some point, but only Oda knows when and where.

At this point of the story, Yamato (or Carrot... maybe) has a better chance of joining.

Vivi does not have a chance. Luffy stated wanting 10 crewmates. Currently Luffy has 9 crewmates. So that's only 1 spot left. Oda would have given Vivi different development if Vivi was going to be a crewmate. She's an unplanned princess that is weaker than Usopp and no apparent ship role. They will meet again but Vivi is 5.5 not the 11th.

Yamato is not joining. Yamato has been grouped with Momonosuke, Kin'emon, and Tama essentially joining only if the others did.

Carrot has now been given the responsibility of next ruler of the Minks. It would be irresponsible of Carrot to abandon the post to adventure with the Strawhats knowing her position. It wouldn't be the same as Carrot's first and only stowaway where she didn't have that responsibility.

 

[Warback]

Vivi does not have a chance. Luffy stated wanting 10 crewmates. Currently Luffy has 9 crewmates. So that's only 1 spot left. Oda would have given Vivi different development if Vivi was going to be a crewmate. She's an unplanned princess that is weaker than Usopp and no apparent ship role. They will meet again but Vivi is 5.5 not the 11th.

Yamato is not joining. Yamato has been grouped with Momonosuke, Kin'emon, and Tama essentially joining only if the others did.

Carrot has now been given the responsibility of next ruler of the Minks. It would be irresponsible of Carrot to abandon the post to adventure with the Strawhats knowing her position. It wouldn't be the same as Carrot's first and only stowaway where she didn't have that responsibility.

Wait so you really think Pedro is joining?

 

[Uncle Van]

tama fans r truly galaxy brained

She's a literal 8 year old child with no relevance, goals or thematic purpose outside of Wano. The only 2 times we've seen little children on a ship is with Roger and WB under special circumstances, and they were still kept away from the battlefield. Other times, kids were always left behind and we've seen it on 3 occasions with Luffy, Pedro and Tama.

Oda always tried to be as tame as possible when it comes to kids, only having them get hit once or poisoned, and Oda always portrayed hurting kids as one of the worst things imaginable. Even Tama was protected throughout Wano and the instant she came into harm, the ones responsible(Holdem and Ulti) was portrayed as horrible and punished. But for first time, Oda gonna have a literal child be on the front lines? If not, Tama will just be there adding nothing to the plot or themes? Lol

 

[KonyaruIchi]

She's a literal 8 year old child with no relevance, goals or thematic purpose outside of Wano. The only 2 times we've seen little children on a ship is with Roger and WB under special circumstances, and they were still kept away from the battlefield. Other times, kids were always left behind and we've seen it on 3 occasions with Luffy, Pedro and Tama.

Oda always tried to be as tame as possible when it comes to kids, only having them get hit once or poisoned, and Oda always portrayed hurting kids as one of the worst things imaginable. Even Tama was protected throughout Wano and the instant she came into harm, the ones responsible(Holdem and Ulti) was portrayed as horrible and punished. But for first time, Oda gonna have a literal child be on the front lines? If not, Tama will just be there adding nothing to the plot or themes? Lol

You all don't get it, she's clearly being set up as the protagonist of Two Piece

 

[Uncle Van]

You all don't get it, she's clearly being set up as the protagonist of Two Piece

Two Piece: where Oda allows little girls to be in death matches for the first time and for 8 years to be looked upon as bewitching

Seriously though, Tama's goal is to be a bewitching Kunochi. That's what she promised to Ace. Do they not notice that they are arguing that she'll be bewitching as a child?

 

[Warback]

Just put all the Tama fans, Caribou fans, Pedro fans,King fans, Bellamy fans (?) in a pit and whoever comes out can be taken seriously.

 

[Electricmastro]

So assuming Yamato wasn't intended to waste our time, I suppose after Caribou's contact makes their move to Wano and eventually forces Yamato to stop protecting Wano in a confrontation that backfires on her, that's prob when Luffy would be set to meet up with her again. Vivi being missing may also set Luffy to meet up with Vivi again soon too, and that Oda may be setting it up like this so that Vivi and Yamato tag along to Laugh Tale, with Vivi being honorary Straw Hat and for Yamato to be given the chance to fill in the missing gaps in the journal. After that, Luffy would start his return trip which would include delivering Vivi back to Alabasta, and also allow Yamato to visit places she didn't get to see before as well as places we didn't see, similar to Oden visiting Water 7 even though Roger already had.

 

[KonyaruIchi]

Two Piece: where Oda allows little girls to be in death matches for the first time and for 8 years to be looked upon as bewitching

Seriously though, Tama's goal is to be a bewitching Kunochi. That's what she promised to Ace. Do they not notice that they are arguing that she'll be bewitching as a child?

I kind of see Luffy's statement the same way Shanks talked to him as a kid. A way to kind of encourage her forward. Wouldn't surprise me if she hypothetically became a pirate eventually, but within one piece that's just incredibly unlikely unless shinobu uses her ripe-ripe fruit on her

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Seriously though, Tama's goal is to be a bewitching Kunochi. That's what she promised to Ace. Do they not notice that they are arguing that she'll be bewitching as a child?

Don't use logic.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Just put all the Tama fans, Caribou fans, Pedro fans,King fans, Bellamy fans (?) in a pit and whoever comes out can be taken seriously.

Bellamy doesn’t deserve to be in this list

 

[Kurozumi D. Trussop]

None of them have a chance.

Caribou is a irredeemable villain (like Caesar) who was captured by a bigger villain's subordinate. Luffy saved Caribou thinking Caribou wouldn't do anything funny in Wano and be useful which was true. But we shall see how long Caribou stays but it's likely Caribou will get separated from the Strawhats again to go spill the beans of the Ancient Weapons to whoever is being alluded to.

Vivi is not joining the Strawhats more so then she already has as an unofficial Strawhat number 5.5. Oda planned ALL of the crewmates and how Vivi has been developed does not point to being a future official crewmate.

Having joke characters isn't a big deal until they take spots from those that are believed to have a shot at joining, no matter how slim the chance the opposition believes otherwise.

Or he's alive alive.. As alive as Pell.

It's not the same. I pointed out a possibility from Pedro's words to Luffy. Also mentioned that Luffy did not see any Sulong transformation in WCI or Wano. That's is strange so it leaves another time for Luffy to see the transformation. The shock value is gone especially if Luffy first sees Sulong from a Mink we have already seen transform.

Besides Pedro isn't irrelevant to Luffy as Luffy tends to forget or rather not care to remember what is not important to him.