Character Discussion Why Sanji has more self respect as a fighter than Zoro, without even having fight oriented dream?

Who has more self respect for their strength?


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Peroroncino

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So you agree with what I’m saying then. Good. Lol

So I don’t ever want to see you saying Sanji’s strength is unearned and then turning around and saying Zoro the fucking CoC inheritor earned his strength. Lol
Zoros strength is 100% earned even enma had to test him first before he was worthy of it.
As for coc yeah i am cool with having one power he didnt earn
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something you have at birth........ sounds like it yeah
Never heard of any of his ancestors having it tho
 
Zoros strength is 100% earned even enma had to test him first before he was worthy of it.
As for coc yeah i am cool with having one power he didnt earn
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Never heard of any of his ancestors having it tho
I reckon its hard to track generations upon generations of ancestor spanning 100s of years cause genes are technically much more than just your parents/grandparents lol
ryuuma could be a distant ancestor given their physical makeup
but regardless
coc is a matter of genetic lottery
it isnt earned , you are born with it .
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
He didnt tame enma with coc lol.
He tamed it by giving it all his haki and it just so happened he had coc lol
…no, that was definitely CoC. Lol

Regardless, Zoro still would’ve never scarred Kaido, defeated King or Kaku

So everybody who has CoC is a fraud because they were born with it. Even though most born with it don't awaken it and even less can ever even apply it offensively through coating.
I didn’t say Zoro was a fraud, I said the notion that Sanji’s strength is unearned while Zoro’s is earned is bullshit, both benefit equally from destiny blessings and to act like Zoro doesn’t is delusion.
 
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…no, that was definitely CoC. Lol

Regardless, Zoro still would’ve never scarred Kaido, defeated King



I didn’t say Zoro was a fraud, I said the notion that Sanji’s strength is unearned while Zoro’s is earned is bullshit, both benefit equally from destiny blessings and to act like Zoro doesn’t is delusion.
There is no question they are destined for greatness, literally every straw hat is.

My point is Sanji needed to be altered on a genetic level to keep up. Otherwise he would currently be dead to Queen's snake attack.
 
Okay, and Zoro had to win the 1 in a million birth lottery or else he would’ve lost to King.
Yea and even after that "lottery" you need to have the strength of character and strength to even use it properly


The difference between Zoro and Sanji is even if Zoro gets handed something it is still a fight or a struggle to use it.

Sanji will get something and struggle with his values to use it, but the powerup does not need skill to use.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Yea and even after that "lottery" you need to have the strength of character and strength to even use it properly


The difference between Zoro and Sanji is even if Zoro gets handed something it is still a fight or a struggle to use it.

Sanji will get something and struggle with his values to use it, but the powerup does not need skill to use.
Of course Sanji’s Powerups require skill. The benefits provided by Sanji’s exoskeleton don’t mean much if Sanji doesn’t use them properly. For example the speed boost provided by his exoskeleton which allowed him to become completely invisible while fighting Queen for a time. That’s a whole new technique Sanji has never used before and he had to learn how to use this in combat on the fly.
 
Zoro was born into a dojo, his better falls on her head and dies leaving Zoro with a meito at the age of 3.
Sanji at the time was being persecuted by Judge, and from there on lived a regular life as a cook, no interest whatsoever in strength. He happened to activate those genes by accident, and he hated every second of it.

Zoro is more of a fraud but his path to WSS is no joke so he needs more advantages. The way I think of their powerlevels is Zoro being 2 tiers above Sanji on a regular day, with Sanji being only a tier below when he has to fight for someone else and whatnot.
So hypothetically if Zoro is Roger level then Sanji is Rayleigh on his best day and Gaban on his average.
 
Of course Sanji’s Powerups require skill. The benefits provided by Sanji’s exoskeleton don’t mean much if Sanji doesn’t use them properly. For example the speed boost provided by his exoskeleton which allowed him to become completely invisible while fighting Queen for a time. That’s a whole new technique Sanji has never used before and he had to learn how to use this in combat on the fly.
not really it was a speed feat not a technique it wasn't even named
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Zoro was born into a dojo, his better falls on her head and dies leaving Zoro with a meito at the age of 3.
Sanji at the time was being persecuted by Judge, and from there on lived a regular life as a cook, no interest whatsoever in strength. He happened to activate those genes by accident, and he hated every second of it.

Zoro is more of a fraud but his path to WSS is no joke so he needs more advantages. The way I think of their powerlevels is Zoro being 2 tiers above Sanji on a regular day, with Sanji being only a tier below when he has to fight for someone else and whatnot.
So hypothetically if Zoro is Roger level then Sanji is Rayleigh on his best day and Gaban on his average.
Except sanji post power up admitted pre power up zoro can kill him.
 
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