Powers & Abilities Kidd is every swordsmans natural enemy

#61
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Again it's kaido first time seeing the moves. You are acting like these characters automatically should know others abilities on the first time seeing them.
no dude, Kaido never negated G5’s effects on his body.

like right after getting punched in the face by G5, Kaido and Luffy trade blows and Luffy still turns his body to rubber with each punch.

similarly Kid used assign on BM at least twice. The second time she surely knew what was up.
 
#63
Law shock Willie is a attack not body manipulation. It's never stated that haki completely stops a df just that it can negate df that targets your body for a effect. Law isn't trying to control your body but is just shooting a shockwave through it so haki wouldn't negate that but at most just reduce the damage.

Again BM literally got out of assign right after kidd used it.
Assign only lasts a few seconds, it drains his stamina.

shock wille is a bad example, silence makes more sense. BM was unable to negate R Room despite that technique partially causing her defeat.
 
#64
Assign has a timelimit

as Kid stated when he first used awakening, he wasn’t used to using it and it drains stamina.
That's not proof. Law's df drained his stamina but didn't stop his df abilities. Law can forcefully keep his df active but at the cost of his life so Kidd having a random time limit Is your head cannon. Second why wouldn't Kidd keep doing it? The ability forced BM back to the rock he assigned her to. If he could just keep forcing her back why not at least do it to create openings for his team? It's much more likely BM negated it as right after she blocked Kidd it was gone. So she used Kidd's own move against him and then got rid of it. Idk why Kidd would even use a unreliable move like that and waste his stamina.
 
#66
no dude, Kaido never negated G5’s effects on his body.

like right after getting punched in the face by G5, Kaido and Luffy trade blows and Luffy still turns his body to rubber with each punch.

similarly Kid used assign on BM at least twice. The second time she surely knew what was up.
The effects of toon g5 on kaido we're also because Luffy was attacking him at the same time. Speculation but it's probably luffy's attack overcoming the haki more so than kaido not stopping his df. G5 massively boosted Luffy but it's just speculation and Luffy is a outlier it this case not the standard.

Kidd only assigned BM once didn't he?
 
#67
That's not proof. Law's df drained his stamina but didn't stop his df abilities. Law can forcefully keep his df active but at the cost of his life so Kidd having a random time limit Is your head cannon. .
simply using assign once left him exhausted. He was panting on the floor.

The second time, Linlin had already blocked the metal bull. There was no point in keeping assign on her.
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. Second why wouldn't Kidd keep doing it? The ability forced BM back to the rock he assigned her to. If he could just keep forcing her back why not at least do it to create openings for his team?
because it drains stamina and he hadn’t mastered it yet, literally go read chapter 1030, Kid point blank explains why he doesn’t spam awakening

Not to mention it’s hard to land and other attacks like punk corna dio and damned punk can be more effective at times
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The effects of toon g5 on kaido we're also because Luffy was attacking him at the same time. Speculation but it's probably luffy's attack overcoming the haki more so than kaido not stopping his df. G5 massively boosted Luffy but it's just speculation and Luffy is a outlier it this case not the standard.

Kidd only assigned BM once didn't he?
No

nobody has negated awakening so far
  • Luffy turned kaido to rubber many times
  • Kid used assign on BM twice
  • Law used RRoom on BM
Kaido and linlin constantly cover their entire bodies with haki. It’s why Law couldn’t teleport them. Yet awakening worked on them.

Awakening is objectively harder to negate than normal DF abilities. Does it not make sense for this to be the case? Especially since the next villain, Teach, is primarily a DF user? Do you think Luffy will just casually negate the yami yami no mi?
 
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#68
By feats, awakened magnetism should pose a threat to any swordsman, regardless of their haki skill. Its intuitive, magnetism effects metal. You can't pretend that this isn't the case just because you stan zoro or whatever.

Of course, this doesn't mean automatically beats every swordsman, as haki still counters DFs. However, I think its no coincidence that a majority of powerful pirates are weapons users whereas there are only a few that aren't:
  • Luffy
  • Teach
  • Kid
Were Oda to have Kid use the full potential of the magnetism fruit, he could in theory be the 3rd strongest pirate. This would, imo, be in line with his portrayal as Luffy's rival. Of course, he would be far closer to zoro than Luffy.

But its really up to Oda.
I mean if u even wanna try awakening , then can’t it just apply to everyone , like it doesn’t mean that kid is some type of weakness to swordsmen anymore cause there is a 90% chance that kid will magnetise the opponent more than their weapon and it looks more logical that way too , this can then simply happen with anyone , weapon or not .
 
#72
I mean if u even wanna try awakening , then can’t it just apply to everyone , like it doesn’t mean that kid is some type of weakness to swordsmen anymore cause there is a 90% chance that kid will magnetise the opponent more than their weapon and it looks more logical that way too , this can then simply happen with anyone , weapon or not .
If swordsmen need haki to prevent losing their weapons against him, then it’s a weakness imo.
 
#74
The thing about Kidd is that it feels like Oda/his editors really want us to care about him but at the same time refuse to give him any actual development
 
#75
Law is a better natural enemy for every weapon user... You think Kid's gravity is strong enough to disarm top tiers ? Kaido and Big Mom kept their weapons and they had to make a plan to disarm just Big Mom. To Fodders however Kid is a nightmare to them.
 
#77
The thing about Kidd is that it feels like Oda/his editors really want us to care about him but at the same time refuse to give him any actual development
I don't think they do. Its a well established fact that Oda makes things up as he goes. Initially Kid was supposed to be the most important supernova, then Oda decided to make Law the most important supernova. However, given how he built Kid up, he can't just drop Kid.

But, there is a clear inconsistency in how Kid was introduced and how he was treated. If you haven't noticed, most of the really important stuff about Law was revealed post skip:
  • the fact he is a D
  • his connections to doflamingo
  • his DF being able to grant immortality
If you look at the pre-skip portrayal, Kid is objectively more important than Law.
  • higher bounty than Luffy
  • supernova right hand
  • #3 with fire abilities, paralleling sanji
Oda changed his mind
 
#78
I don't think they do. Its a well established fact that Oda makes things up as he goes. Initially Kid was supposed to be the most important supernova, then Oda decided to make Law the most important supernova. However, given how he built Kid up, he can't just drop Kid.

But, there is a clear inconsistency in how Kid was introduced and how he was treated. If you haven't noticed, most of the really important stuff about Law was revealed post skip:
  • the fact he is a D
  • his connections to doflamingo
  • his DF being able to grant immortality
If you look at the pre-skip portrayal, Kid is objectively more important than Law.
  • higher bounty than Luffy
  • supernova right hand
  • #3 with fire abilities, paralleling sanji
Oda changed his mind
I'm not even strictly talking about Kidd's importance/development in comparison to Law's. It just doesn't feel like Kidd has really contributed to the narrative at all. Despite how much he was initially hyped up, Kidd ends up feeling kinda superfluous in the grand scheme of things. Kidd doesn't even feel as important as Bege or Bonney, but he gets billed as one of the three "main" captains. Really feels like Oda dropped the ball on him
 
#79
I'm not even strictly talking about Kidd's importance/development in comparison to Law's. It just doesn't feel like Kidd has really contributed to the narrative at all. Despite how much he was initially hyped up, Kidd ends up feeling kinda superfluous in the grand scheme of things. Kidd doesn't even feel as important as Bege or Bonney, but he gets billed as one of the three "main" captains. Really feels like Oda dropped the ball on him
I mean, he beat Linlin alongside Law, Oda has been setting up something between him and shanks, Oda set him up to go after the burned man

Were I to guess, his role in the future will be greater than his role in wano. Kid was kinda thrown into wano. But Oda clearly intends for him to be important in whatever arc shanks is in.
 
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