Powers & Abilities Why Zoro has two advanced Hakis and Sanji doesn't even have one?

Why? Just Why? WHY?


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@ShishioIsBack







Queen does hit harder than dressrosa zoro tho. Dressrosa zoro simply wasn’t strong enough to compete with a ancient span wielding commander.







Like even wano Zoro got rag dolled by King’s wing slap. Brachiosaurus strength+yonji cyborg tech>>>cutting rocks and fodder Pica.



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Cutting rocks and beating Pica is a mid feat. It’s something Big Mom’s cook can do. You realize that, right?
Big Moms cook cut a fucking cake

Imagine comparing that to busting a mountain



Dressrosa Zoros attack power is at least a 1000 times above Kidds



I get the insecurity tho
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Someone show him the panels of King nearly knocking Zoro off wano.
King would kill Kidd before Kidd can even blink
 
The reason he doesn't have advance haki is because he doesn't deserve based on how oda is approaching it. He gives it to people who train I guess atleast fir story purpose.... I mean I won't be surprised if oda sneaks in advance haki for sanji out of nowhere just because it's needed since it's already covered
 
You really didn't catch the irony? Not even slightly?

Im using the same Cope argues you guys were using, but on another situation.
Everyone caught the attempt at irony but it was a poor attempt.

You never properly explained how you think the events unfolded, probably because you realize that you are wrong or because your bias is so strong that you have already reached your conclusion but have no way to get to it based on the information given. If not please explain in detail what you believe happened in that scene?
 
Oh how can I forget how Zoro did this to Apoo with a random, nameless, hakiless, Enmaless Slash


Same apoo who no sold Kidd's 2nd strongest attack.
Only crowd who matches in delusion of Sanji fans are Kidd fans. When you have to work with such disgustingly underwhelming feats and then you want to scale them to people with enormously better displays of combat prowess, you can only downplay people who are actually impressive.
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I also keep forgetting Big Mom who nearly Killed Kidd got her attack basically no sold by Killer.

Same Killer was one shot by Hakiless Oni Giri

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Now we have established Zoro's Oni Giri (Without Haki and Without Shushui) after a significant wound is above Big Mom's named lightening attack which did nothing more than Daze Killer for one second.

We have established random nameless Hakiless attack is strong enough not just take Apoo out but also destory his Haki. Same Apoo who got nothing but dazed for a second from Kidd's named attack.

Now same Zoro with Sword God Ryuma's Blade, one of the strongest armament Haki, with potency to tame Enma that requires so much Haki that that Haki can scar Kaido, can not hurt and Kill Sanji.

Now what does that say about Useless Kidd vs Sanji?
Would End of Story Kidd be able to finally hurt Sanji? Because maybe at the end of story Kidd would match damage output of Dressrosa Zoro who apparently can't hurt Sanji.


This reminds me of fat women boosting other fat women telling them they are perfect 10s. Sanji Fans and Kidd fans are near perfect combo of perplexing delusion and exceptional desire to stay as far from reality as possible.

That's the only way they can even argue for two inferior bummy fighters like Kidd and Sanji being even in the same world as fighters who have clearly proven themselves to be on a whole different stratosphere.

@Monkey D Theories
 
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If not please explain in detail what you believe happened in that scene?
For the 15th time or something? Lmao

I don't take Shishio that much seriously when the matter is One Piece takes, nobody here does.

Don't worry, there is no problem with that, irony or not he wouldn't catch it and i already expected it
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probably because you realize that you are wrong or because your bias is so strong that you have already reached your conclusion but have no way to get to it based on the information given.
Why are you describing yourself here?

You went through the whole thread repeating the same stuff over and over again

"Sanji only dodged a jelly bean bruh, that was the whole point of the scene: Dodging a jelly bean! Trust me"
 
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I don't think that's true. Sanji's vinsmoke body allowed him to recover from an otherwise fatal attack from Queen. I think the only way to do damage to Sanji he can't recover from is to instantly kill him. I think Zoro would need CoC to do that.
Zoro's damage =/= Queen's damage. Queen breaks bones, Zoro cuts through flesh. Vinsmokes can't put their severed flesh/bones/internals back together.
I mean no, Queen was using Yonji's winch tech on top of his own brachiosaurus strength



cutting inanimate objects and animals isn't as big of a feat as you think it is
Dressrosa Zoro can obviously damage Sanji. Firstly, it's more than just cutting rock, it's cutting a mountain. Reducing the feat to "cutting a rock" makes no sense; it's like saying Naruto just cut a rock when the rock he cut was literally the Moon. DC relates to energy output - that's how you scale attacks. Secondly, the exoskeleton is not as great as you think - it was never supposed to be some crazy durability buff, I'd argue that it was the RS that was more hyped for its durability.

The exoskeleton's main defensive advantage is increased healing capabilities - you can heal broken bones almost instantly. The durability of the exoskeleton itself was canonically compared to that of an armoured shield-bearing soldier [X]. You know, similar to the ones Zoro sliced through like butter on FI [X].

Sanji himself overcame the exoskeleton's durability multiple times on WCI. He bodied Yonji and broke Niji's jaw. And that version of Sanji was weaker than Dressrosa Zoro. Can you prove that Sanji's exoskeleton is significantly more durable than his siblings'?
 
Zoro's damage =/= Queen's damage. Queen breaks bones, Zoro cuts through flesh. Vinsmokes can't put their severed flesh/bones/internals back together.

Dressrosa Zoro can obviously damage Sanji. Firstly, it's more than just cutting rock, it's cutting a mountain. Reducing the feat to "cutting a rock" makes no sense; it's like saying Naruto just cut a rock when the rock he cut was literally the Moon. DC relates to energy output - that's how you scale attacks. Secondly, the exoskeleton is not as great as you think - it was never supposed to be some crazy durability buff, I'd argue that it was the RS that was more hyped for its durability.

The exoskeleton's main defensive advantage is increased healing capabilities - you can heal broken bones almost instantly. The durability of the exoskeleton itself was canonically compared to that of an armoured shield-bearing soldier [X]. You know, similar to the ones Zoro sliced through like butter on FI [X].

Sanji himself overcame the exoskeleton's durability multiple times on WCI. He bodied Yonji and broke Niji's jaw. And that version of Sanji was weaker than Dressrosa Zoro. Can you prove that Sanji's exoskeleton is significantly more durable than his siblings'?
You are feeding a troll my guy
 
For the 15th time or something? Lmao

I don't take Shishio that much seriously when the matter is One Piece takes, nobody here does.

Don't worry, there is no problem with that, irony or not he wouldn't catch it and i already expected it
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Why are you describing yourself here?

You went through the whole thread repeating the same stuff over and over again

"Sanji only dodged a jelly bean bruh, that was the whole point of the scene: Dodging a jelly bean! Trust me"
Yes I explained and repeated my point and the way I think the events unfolded a bunch of times but yet again you haven't explained how you think it happened exactly
 
Zoro's damage =/= Queen's damage. Queen breaks bones, Zoro cuts through flesh. Vinsmokes can't put their severed flesh/bones/internals back together.

Dressrosa Zoro can obviously damage Sanji. Firstly, it's more than just cutting rock, it's cutting a mountain. Reducing the feat to "cutting a rock" makes no sense; it's like saying Naruto just cut a rock when the rock he cut was literally the Moon. DC relates to energy output - that's how you scale attacks. Secondly, the exoskeleton is not as great as you think - it was never supposed to be some crazy durability buff, I'd argue that it was the RS that was more hyped for its durability.

The exoskeleton's main defensive advantage is increased healing capabilities - you can heal broken bones almost instantly. The durability of the exoskeleton itself was canonically compared to that of an armoured shield-bearing soldier [X]. You know, similar to the ones Zoro sliced through like butter on FI [X].

Sanji himself overcame the exoskeleton's durability multiple times on WCI. He bodied Yonji and broke Niji's jaw. And that version of Sanji was weaker than Dressrosa Zoro. Can you prove that Sanji's exoskeleton is significantly more durable than his siblings'?
Exoskeleton > sword
Sanji’s haki was also capable of blocking bladed attacks from Judge and Daifuku.

So I think it’s fair to say Dressrosa Zoro would struggle immensely to cut Sanji. But you know, I’ll throw him a bone. He can probably do it with Asura.
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So is pre skip Drake. King and Queen both being ancient zoans is irrelevant
Both commanders
Both have similar bounties

your point?
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Only crowd who matches in delusion of Sanji fans are Kidd fans. When you have to work with such disgustingly underwhelming feats and then you want to scale them to people with enormously better displays of combat prowess, you can only downplay people who are actually impressive.
You’re projecting

Your entire agenda is trying to argue that Zoro is somehow on par with Luffy, despite his feats being absolutely pathetic in comparison.

It’s a losing argument, which is why you and the others always get so bitter and angry when people reasonably disagree
 
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