Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1069 Spoilers Discussion

[Raughtale]

Redon’s summary sure makes it sound like a fact than a theory, so I’m not sure what you think needs to be clarified before I can make a decision about how I feel, it sounds like Vegapunk says it unequivocally.

This is the worstgen problem with jumping the gun just from a summary

(right page) Devil fruits are... [idiotic watermark]
If only I could be like that... If only I could be like this...! The diverse paths of humanity's future are these "abilities"!
And as such, this "unnaturalness"...
...exists while carrying the punishment...
...of being despised by the natural mother "ocean"!
(left page) To be an "ability user" is...
...to live in a different dimension...
...one of the many that someone has imagined before!
(right page)
That is my theory...!

 

[Roronoa-sama]

this chapter has killed the yonkofans

 

[Redboy776]

Damn straight.

Oda left Zoro outside on the ship for a reason: for Zoro to make up for what happened in Sabaody.

I don't expect it to be a long fight, I just need Zoro matching Kizaru.

Its possible that Oda will have Kizazu confront Luffy first to not make Zoro vs Kizaru top obvious.

Kizaru apear and capture Luffy and Strawhats.

Kuma arrive on egghead and Zoro follow Kuma into the Island to bait out Strawhat and clash with Kizaru.

 

[Flower]

? She was in Rocks crew up until she was in her early 30s. She was one of the monsters of Rocks crew and was up there with Newgate.

Her being pregnant doesn’t really change much, she’s a natural born monster and nobody could really pierce past her passive Haki defenses.

Perospero is like 50. Linlin is 68. So she had him with 18. And we're talking about training for DF Awakening which wasn't possible for her after the age of 18.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Redon’s summary sure makes it sound like a fact than a theory, so I’m not sure what you think needs to be clarified before I can make a decision about how I feel, it sounds like Vegapunk says it unequivocally.

Did you see the (current) scans? The dialogue does suggest Vegapunk doesn't know all the details, just that they are manifested by desire. We just don't know how or why. It probably has to do with this "universal" energy he's looking to find, and that's pretty scientific or at least stays in line with the idea.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

At this point, logic will probably dictate Kaido and Big Mom coming back with Rocks and having awakening lol. So weird that Lucci shows it off (glad he does, it's awesome) but not the King of Beasts

Zoro is too strong for them and wb is dead

 

[Hako Sama]

Will kizaru side with cp0 or Vegapunk is an interesting scenario .


I still think kizaru has good relation with vegapunk. His marine objective will be discovered soon if he is good or bad guy ??

Kizaru is on the Marine's side, which isn't exactly is VP or CP0 side, but their own side.
Even if Kizaru has a good relation with VP, it's not something that would make him switch to SHs side, btw, this switch side thing is really bullshit.
The guy was a psycho during the entire series and now he cares about someone. lol

It seems that people created it to defend their own agenda, because they are too afraid of their invincible admirals falling to the mc, which should eventually happen.

 

[LayerZ]

this chapter has killed the yonkofans

Wait for kizaru future feats.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Zoro is too strong for them and wb is dead

I meant actual Rocks not the group with every dead person. His "death" is still a mystery tbh.

Anyway, I'm joking, it's probably Blackbeard that inherited his will, either via his 3rd DF (mythical zoan?) Or something else.

 

[Albino 👑]

It's weird but kaido was able to use future sight only to a limited extent. It being something he needed to use to handle snakeman

Same with him needing to use his stronger beast like form thats totally not awakening against boundman

G5 is luffys strongest form because it can combine all his other abilities and gears but a basic g5 punch isn't automatically stronger or faster than than g2, g3, boundman, or snakeman

 

[nik87]

Leaked page from next chapter.

All Luffy needs to do to break Lucci's bones is to make his hands just a little bit bigger—he need not even use advCoA or CoC. Even speed-wise, Luffy's legit trolling Lucci in G5; he's not even able to catch up to Luffy:

I wouldnt say he is trolling him by dodging Shigan while smiling... G5 is smiling during most things...
He can break his bones indeed but if Lucci is smart and learned a lesson he wont take big hits head on.
The punch from the ground wasnt small and it didnt keep Lucci down and he wasnt even guarding from it...
We dont know how much aCoC would put Lucci at disadvantage but we will soon enough, I guess.
ID CoA wont achieve much, imo. Speedwise, they are identical. Luffy can only gain an advantage with Snakeman.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

This is the worstgen problem with jumping the gun just from a summary

(right page) Devil fruits are... [idiotic watermark]
If only I could be like that... If only I could be like this...! The diverse paths of humanity's future are these "abilities"!
And as such, this "unnaturalness"...
...exists while carrying the punishment...
...of being despised by the natural mother "ocean"!
(left page) To be an "ability user" is...
...to live in a different dimension...
...one of the many that someone has imagined before!
(right page)
That is my theory...!

So what else do you think there is to this theory that isn’t included? What’s left to reveal that the smartest man in the world apparently excluded from this scene that’ll make it sound less like hack bullshit? Y’all love hanging onto one word for dear life, but I find it hard to believe Oda would have Vegapunk say this and then be proven wrong

 

[Flower]

this chapter has killed the yonkofans

And here I'm happy two of my absolute faves are doing so well . DF lore aside it is almost a 10/10 chapter for my taste.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

this chapter has killed the yonkofans

It hasn’t. It has hit raised Lucci up very high from where peopl thought he was

 

[LayerZ]

Kizaru is on the Marine's side, which isn't exactly is VP or CP0 side, but their own side.
Even if Kizaru has a good relation with VP, it's not something that would make him switch to SHs side, btw, this switch side thing is really bullshit.
The guy was a psycho during the entire series and now he cares about someone. lol

It seems that people created it to defend their own agenda, because they are too afraid of their invincible admirals falling to the mc, which should eventually happen.

We have to know kizaru sentomaru relationship before that .
Lucci just badly injured sentomaru .
This might realy well pissed off Kizaru .
Tought like I said kizaru being beat this arc is a possibility but if this happen he will show insane feats and not be easy to beat at all .

 

[Roronoa-sama]

I meant actual Rocks not the group with every dead person. His "death" is still a mystery tbh.

Anyway, I'm joking, it's probably Blackbeard that inherited his will, either via his 3rd DF (mythical zoan?) Or something else.

I wanted to say if luffy fought agaisnt rocks zoro should be fought agaisnt wb

 

[Ven437]

Perospero is like 50. Linlin is 68. So she had him with 18. And we're talking about training for DF Awakening which wasn't possible for her after the age of 18.

I know she been having kids since 18 but why do you think she stopped training after turning 18? Where is the claim for this?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

It hasn’t. It has hit raised Lucci up very high from where peopl thought he was

Lucci didn't have no damage with direct g5 attack while base luffy damage kaido

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Did you see the (current) scans? The dialogue does suggest Vegapunk doesn't know all the details, just that they are manifested by desire. We just don't know how or why. It probably has to do with this "universal" energy he's looking to find, and that's pretty scientific or at least stays in line with the idea.

We’ll see if he ties it together, but if this is how we’re starting off with the explanation, there’s no direction for it to go that doesn’t end with some ridiculous faux-scientific outcome. I know, I know, everything in this series is dumb and goofy on some level, but again, that doesn’t mean everything HAS to be that way…

 

[Flower]

I know she been having kids since 18 but why do you think she stopped training after turning 18? Where is the claim for this?

She has kids every year.
Pregnancy ~ 9 months.
No hard training or the like possible during a pregnancy.
It's not hard...