Controversial Alot of leftist belief is inherently racist

[Toby D. Dog]

Why are you appealing to emotion? Idgaf about how many people died over it, that doesn’t change the fact that being solely pro free healthcare makes you a leftist. You’re talking to adults here.


You can literally google search it alongside his praise of the Castro regime

I base my politics from a point of empathy. I find it disturbing you saying you don't give a fuck how many people died because of it. That is the core of my belief system when it comes to politics. All I ever heard Bernie praise these authoritarian governments for was about literacy and advancements in medicine.

Stop trying to sell yourself as this mature, pragmatic figure. It's kind of weird.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Except you’re wrong, and saying shit like that this just shows how naive and young you are lol

Can you even name 10 Biden policies? How can you talk about American Politics with that confidence is beyond me

can't name 10 off my head but
a few of the notables ones he wants to push/pushed would not be out of left field for right wing politicians in Western Europe

coding abortion
gun control
raising the minimum wage for federal workers
rejoining the Paris climate accords etc


some of these issues are not even debated anymore while America still does.
what's right wing or left wing isn't fixed , some of it depends on where you are.

 

[Uncle Van]

When it comes to welfare Bernie is pretty center left. It's when Bernie talks about nationalizing certain industries when you can start saying he's left on the international spectrum. It's still based tho.

Joe Biden is right wing tho. If you're not for free healthcare you're a rightwinger.

The USSR was an authorarian left government. Joseph Stalin and Kim Jung Un are great examples of authoritarian left dictators.

Joe Biden tried passing segregation laws, signed the Crime Bill of 94, consistently voted for higher taxes on the lower class and would pass policies of the price is right. Biden is by no means left wing.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

All I see is Bernie being anti nuclear weapons. He's criticizing his own government which I think it's fair. At no point does he say "gosh golly those soviets are sure the good guys."
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The USSR was an authorarian left government. Joseph Stalin and Kim Jung Un are great examples of authoritarian left dictators.

Joe Biden tried passing segregation laws, signed the Crime Bill of 94, consistently voted for higher taxes on the lower class and would pass policies of the price is right. Biden is by no means left wing.

I know. I'm anti authoritarian by all means. I don't think that the soviet union or Cuba are good examples of socialism.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

The USSR was an authorarian left government. Joseph Stalin and Kim Jung Un are great examples of authoritarian left dictators.

Joe Biden tried passing segregation laws, signed the Crime Bill of 94, consistently voted for higher taxes on the lower class and would pass policies of the price is right. Biden is by no means left wing.

his politics today are a very different
tbh

 

[Roo]

He's not for Medicare for all

He’s for a public option which is a leftist policy

He crafted the crime bill in the 90s which caused a mass incarceration crisis

How is this a right wing policy when it was highly lauded for its implementation of anti domestic laws that were made to help women? It was also largely backed by the black community. At this point you’re just pushing talking points from dumb pundits

He was supposed to be for the public option but he backtracked

or he’s still for it but can’t get enough support for it at the time from Congress. I don’t think you realize how polarizing the U.S government is. Obama had a super majority and even then he couldn’t

He sells himself as pro union but he blocked the railway worker's strike

He had a history of being pro union as a senator, but sure I give you this one screw up.

He was against raves

???

One of the good things he supported was the partial student loan debt reduction (he should've cancelled it all)

so he is left wing, just not left winged enough.

Other good thing he did was pull out of Afghanistan

Isolationism isn’t a left wing policy lmao

Just to name a few off the top of my head. I grew up in Latin America and the US. Left wing movements in latin america would consider people like biden right wing.

Most of the shit you said is either “not left wing enough” or downright non partisan. Also idgaf about what the Venezuela left thinks of Americans, they’re socialist lmao
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Stop trying to sell yourself as this mature, pragmatic figure. It's kind of weird.

It’s not, when you become an adult you don’t base how the world is on how you feel. You thinking free healthcare is right doesn’t mean it’s automatically a left wing policy, because then you start falling into the mentality that left wing = inherently good which is laughably false

 

[Bob74h]

identity politics could go overboard etc

that being said David duke
nick fuentes,
Kanye west
strong anti migrants sentiments based on conspiracy theories of "planned replacement"
could go on

with unemployment and poverty being issues in america
I can understand the opposition to immigration at least on a logical level


However the great replacement thing, is just stupid
there's white immigrants afterall they did allow ukaraine refugees
https://www.statista.com/statistics...same month that Ukraine was invaded by Russia.


Not to mention, Why not just sterilize or put all white people in a camp or better yet just kill them all if they are that desperate to get rid of us wouldt such decisions make more sense before jumping to let's bring bunch of foreigners over
the conclusion dont match with the actions taken which is a key sign that the great replacement idea is clearly just bull sh-t

 

[Toby D. Dog]

He’s for a public option which is a leftist policy


How is this a right wing policy when it was highly lauded for its implementation of anti domestic laws that were made to help women? It was also largely backed by the black community. At this point you’re just pushing talking points from dumb pundits

or he’s still for it but can’t get enough support for it at the time from Congress. I don’t think you realize how polarizing the U.S government is. Obama had a super majority and even then he couldn’t



He had a history of being pro union as a senator, but sure I give you this one screw up.

???

so he is left wing, just not left winged enough.

Isolationism isn’t a left wing policy lmao


Most of the shit you said is either “not left wing enough” or downright non partisan. Also idgaf about what the Venezuela left thinks of Americans, they’re socialist lmao

I'm not Venezuelan doofus. I'm Colombian. And even Colombian right wingers agree on free healthcare. What does that say about the overton window in America when a country like Colombia (who is historically super right wing) agrees that you shouldn't pay when you go to the doctor? Not only that but they even understand how trickle down economics is not a sustainable way of growth. Joe Biden is a champion of trickle down economics.

 

[Roo]

Joe Biden tried passing segregation laws, signed the Crime Bill of 94, consistently voted for higher taxes on the lower class and would pass policies of the price is right. Biden is by no means left wing.

The segregation laws thing has been debunked irrc

the crime bill of 94, or the part Joe wrote was mainly about anti domestic abuse laws towards women. That really isn’t a left or right thing, he also had large support from the black community

Biden voted for higher taxes on EVERYBODY. That’s how you pay for the welfare system. Under Obama(which Biden was VP) we had one of the highest corporate tax rates in decades

 

[Bob74h]

I'm not Venezuelan doofus. I'm Colombian. And even Colombian right wingers agree on free healthcare. What does that say about the overton window in America when a country like Colombia (who is historically super right wing) agrees that you shouldn't pay when you go to the doctor? Not only that but they even understand how trickle down economics is not a sustainable way of growth. Joe Biden is a champion of trickle down economics.

Even ''free'' heathcare costs money
you just pay for it as a tax instead of upfront

 

[Roo]

I'm not Venezuelan doofus. I'm Colombian. And even Colombian right wingers agree on free healthcare. What does that say about the overton window in America when a country like Colombia (who is historically super right wing) agrees that you shouldn't pay when you go to the doctor? Not only that but they even understand how trickle down economics is not a sustainable way of growth. Joe Biden is a champion of trickle down economics.

Okay so the right wing agrees on free healthcare, yet you earlier said “if you’re not for free healthcare you’re a right winger”

and you don’t see how stupid you look now for making emotional statements?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Imagine thinking Joe Bi

Even ''free'' heathcare costs money
you just pay for it as a tax instead of upfront

Wow, you're so smart. You understand how money works! Since you claim to be Canadian I assume you don't know how much premiums and copays cost.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

with unemployment and poverty being issues in america
I can understand the opposition to immigration at least on a logical level


However the great replacement thing, is just stupid
there's white immigrants afterall they did allow ukaraine refugees
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1310881/refugees-ukraine-united-states-2022/#:~:text=In October 2022, the United States accepted 72,same month that Ukraine was invaded by Russia.


Not to mention, Why not just sterilize or put all white people in a camp or better yet just kill them all if they are that desperate to get rid of us wouldt such decisions make more sense before jumping to let's bring bunch of foreigners over
the conclusion dont match with the actions taken which is a key sign that the great replacement idea is clearly just bull sh-t

its a common misconception poverty and unemployment go away with migration
migration occurs cause as life expectancy increases
the government needs tax payers to fund social programs for the growing aging population . Am sure folks have heard about Japan. its not very easy to just tell people who don't want to have kids to have kids .


yup in the 20th century Europe had two world wars
no suprise most migrants came to the americas from there
now that there's more stability
less people chose to migrate. other regions in the world however are less stable as they are called "developing" regions, so you are more likely to get immigrants from those regions. its not some grand conspiracy or rocket science.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Okay so the right wing agrees on free healthcare, yet you earlier said “if you’re not for free healthcare you’re a right winger”

and you don’t see how stupid you look now for making emotional statements?

My god bro. If right wingers in other countries agree on that, what does that say about Joe Biden? That means he'd be extremely right wing in an already right wing country. Same thing with Europe. This is not a Left against right issue in most countries. But it is in the United States. No real leftist supports private insurance.

But let me applaud you. You're so pragmatic! So serious! A real adult!

 

[Roo]

My god bro. If right wingers in other countries agree on that, what does that say about Joe Biden? That means he'd be extremely right wing in an already right wing country. Same thing with Europe

European countries tend to have both a private and public option, not Medicare for all. Literally what Joe was pushing

The fact that you can’t understand that free healthcare doesn’t inherently make you left wing just goes to show you much brain rot you have. Thanks for calling me smart thoooo

 

[Bob74h]

Wow, you're so smart. You understand how money works! Since you claim to be Canadian I assume you don't know how much premiums and copays cost.

Seems to be more expensive

 

[Toby D. Dog]

European countries tend to have both a private and public option, not Medicare for all. Literally what Joe was pushing

The fact that you can’t understand that free healthcare doesn’t inherently make you a left wing just goes to show you much brain rot you have. Thanks for calling me smart thoooo

Publicly funded, Private institutions. I don't want to hear having brainrot from an establishment liberal cuck. And yes I get emotional about this, cause I've experienced loss due to the fact that people in my life overworked themselves and couldn't afford to go to the doctor. If you want to call me naïve or stupid you can. If even third world countries can figure this shit out, then there's no excuse. And yes you can pay for private insurance in these countries. But when Biden talks about a public option it means BUYING a government plan. These countries offer these public options for FREE. I know that's how it works in Colombia, and that's how it works in Spain. I don't think you're stupid, but I do think you lack empathy.

 

[Roo]

Publicly funded, Private institutions.

No, there’s literally “privately funded” healthcare in some European countries.

I don't want to hear having brainrot from an establishment liberal cuck.

Lol

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Seems to be more expensive

I have UnitedHealthcare. A visit to the emergency room can cost me 400 dollars usually.

 

[Bob74h]

its a common misconception poverty and unemployment go away with migration

that's moronic and never said that
It wont go away if immigration is banned

but more immigration means more people and more people means more competition for same existing amount of jobs
it makes matters worse for people already here, It does not solve the issue of unemployment if immigration is stopped as there would still be more people then jobs available

less people chose to migrate. other regions in the world however are less stable as they are called "developing" regions, so you are more likely to get immigrants from those regions. its not some grand conspiracy or rocket science.

Exactly
Third world nations have lesser living conditions so people from those areas wanna go to america where the living conditions are far better

it's an entirely logical conclusion unrelated to a giant conspiracy which as said does not even make sense