One Piece Chapter 1069: We Owe All There Is To Desire!!

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Lot's of fun stuff to analyze here.

So, we have a big drawback with the Seraphim: without direct contact, they can't take orders. If Vegapunk steals the Seraphim, the only people who can actually take them back would be the Gorosei, and they'd have to contact them directly.

As long as one Vegapunk out of 7 survives, it's a great threat for the WG, as the Gorosei obviously don't leave Mary Geoise, so the remaining Punks would be able to control any Seraphim they ran into.

So, now, we have a game of Keep away with the Punks. Even in Sentomaru goes does, the other Punks can still order the Seraphim. The Straw Hats will fight CP0, probably Kizaru, and a few Seraphim.

I'd expect to see:
Zoro and Brook vs Kizaru
Luffy vs Lucci
Kaku vs Sanji
Stussy vs Robin
Jinbei vs S-Shark at some point

And, I now expect S-Snake to betray all parties. While the other Seraphim has shown no emotion so far, S-Snake has been seen smiling multiple times.

We know from Vegapunk that it's impossible to erase the nature of a being, from the Mechashark. That means S-Snake still has some elements of Boa's personality.

Guess who HATES being ordered around? This chick:



Oda is setting up a blind spot here: we assume the Seraphim are going to either go with the Punks or CP0. What if one of them, or multiple, just stop following orders? What if those things on S-Snake and S-Hawk's arms, ARE control chips, and they... just, rip them off?!?

Look at S-Snake's face in the bottom panel. Everyone else if looking to the right, while she's looking to the left with ellipses in a text box.

S-Snake is going to go off on her own, IMO (and possibly run into the Blackbeard Pirates or Cross Guild).
I actually believe Nami is going to free all seraphims as they are kids at some point. S-shark too showed emotions when he attacked Nami.
Nami did same in punk hazard.
That's why I think Gorōsei themselves are getting involved in this arc.
 
#87
Really enjoyed that chapter.

DuFeld being the bankroller of MADS is quite interesting.

Kizaru coming along is pretty interesting. I’ve always felt he’s quite a disposable character so tying him in with Vegapunk should be a good thing. Would also make a really good final fight for this arc, give Luffy a proper 1 vs 1 victory.

Implication of Lucci’s awakening also having the ribbon thing around them could mean Yamato and Enel are also awakened? Course, Katakuri and Doffy don’t have it, but maybe it’s only for Zoans and Logias. Does then raise the question of Kaido however.

Thought that Oda would go for a science explanation for Devil Fruits so it’s quite interesting that he’s went for the purely fantastical instead. I wonder if this is the explanation for Asura. Maybe when Zoro dies there will be an Asura Mythical Zoan and he’s manifesting it now from his desire to be stronger.

Very impressive feats for Lucci. Fighting evenly with Luffy in G5, even just for a bit, is really impressive. He’s maintained his pre-skip ability of just being a skilled sort of pure fighter. Never been a big fan of the character (or lack of) but one thing he did deliver, and deliver well, was as a fighter.

Shame thereβ€˜s a break next week, especially given it’ll be around the winter schedule, cause it looks like the next couple of chapters will be pretty action packed. Seraphim should start fighting, Kizaru coming, Lucci there, maybe Zoro will get involved now. Just waiting for Smoker as well
it makes me wonder if there was another reason behind stussy killing du feld in WCI.
 
Horchata-chin... The tweet I linked has posted the source of Oda calling Luffy, Nami and Zoro the 3 triggers of the story.
So your claim that we are parroting some lies is debunked because Oda himself literally said it in 2008.
Luffy, Nami and Zoro being the triggers of the story β‰  Each representing one of those attributes. Don't make shit up because you're falling for another fallacy. Bring me an actual evidence of those three representing fame, wealth and power or don't waste my time with another Twitter account from a noname making up the same bullshit as support.

In Luffy's mind is King which refers to King of Pirates which is literally the Fame that I talk about.
That's not what fame is and if you're talking about it in such way then you lost even more of my interest. You can't twist what constructs mean just to fit them into your delusion.

In Nami's mind if Money which refers to Wealth while in Zoro's mind are swords and strength which both represent Power.
If you still dont think King represents Fame, ask yourself if Roger gained Power or Fame when he reached Raftel?
And still in Luffy's mind there's no fame because he doesn't dream of fame but freedom. And at least have the brains to not bring Roger to the table because as Pirate King he had achieved all of it (including wealth from reaching Laugh Tale as part of the One Piece was found there from Joy Boy's treasure and certainly power since you don't get there without it).

But anyways, the Pirate King is the conqueror atop conqueror's (per Chinjao's word) and the only way to make your conqueror's stronger (therefore to make it above the rest) is to grow stronger yourself (per Rayleigh's word), so how would you describe the top conqueror in the world who Roger was? Yeah: the strongest, therefore the one with the most power. Which funnily fits Luffy's goal of becoming the strongest person in the world, which happens to be the only thing he actively pursues unlike fame and wealth:



Luffy's words matter so much that an Emperor was defeated and it wasnt him who defeated it.
His words matter shit when he is so weak to lose 7 times to the same guy in a single night.
How could I think that Luffy is strongest Strawhat when Zoro made him look like toddler in comparison on the rooftop?
Oh, sorry, I forgot Zoro was the one acknowledged by Kaidou by comparing him to the very few capable of fighting him, or the one acknowledged as the only one capable of defeating Kaidou in Wano, or the one who actually achieved enough power output to take him down β€”all of which Luffy was.

Oda could have drawn a panel of Kaidou thinking of Oden when Zoro slashed him in order to try to depict this idea that Zoro is the strongest Straw Hat even though his role wasn't established to be defeating the main villain and has always gotten second fiddle threats, couldn't he? I'm not even asking for a big panel where Kaidou sees Roger, Whitebeard, Oden, Rocks and Shanks in Zoro β€”just one tiny panel where Zoro reminds him of Oden's strength would have been enough. Sad Oda didn't give a shit about it, huh?

Poor Zoro, being the strongest Straw Hat yet having to suffer the narrative of the second strongest for the whole story.

A for effort for trying to teach me a lesson but such a person has yet to be born. :myman:
I did teach you a lesson because you factually went for fallacies. I know you won't take the lesson because you're dumb as a rock in spite of trying to play smart all the time (we already saw how your intellectual efforts came to fruition when Zoro killed Kaidou as you predicted in your complex essays β€”oh, wait), but don't try to fool those of us who make the effort to debunk your idiocies. We aren't falling for your bullshit.
 
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