@MarineHQ @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung
About Ousen admitting Riboku having superior position while both of them employing similar strategies is just for the situation in the battlefield where it was Ousen who lost 2 of his generals first.
It doesn't mean he is admitting that he is inferior to Riboku as commander or strategist. He clearly said : "neither of us played any larger part in swaying the scale". This here already proved as a strategist or commander both were equal but Riboku got situational advantage which gave him superior position in battlefield in the beginning.
But remember it was Ousen who made Riboku believing that the whole battle is going according to there planned strategies but the one who was controlling even Riboku as his own pawn (that is even making opposition to move according to his own wishes) was Ousen. Here :
- Riboku said they hadn't gave any reinforcements since ninth day because if they chipped down there own numbers than Ousen would be taking immediate advantage of the situation.
- on the thirteenth day it was again said by Riboku and his men that, they stopped sending reinforcements after seeing Zhao getting pushed because of the pressure Ousen is exerting by coming close to there HQ.
- about Ousen not sending reinforcements, reason mentioned below but that is according to his plan as well.
Most important point
- Ousen's calculative timing on the destruction of Gyou's food stock. The timing was crucial thing as not only by then Qin's right wing pushed back Zhao but also had removed CGR and Riboku was only planned the strategies in the way of prolonging the war and destroy there food and morale. But Ousen from the night of thirteenth day made Riboku to running out time while in panic as well who got his all planned strategies wasted.
- crushing Zhao in central battlefield and making Riboku abandoning the ground with planning that he can still starve out Qin army in Gyou.
- lastly the food supply through a route which was even out of Riboku’s expectations.
Now for all those who are complaining that Ousen did nothing and waited for right wing to do all the things but remember Denrimi already stated that everything was happening according to Ousen's calculations and that includes even the awakening of two units or where Riboku going to panic or whatever he can't even think of to counter.
Now the point left above. Neither of the commanders send reinforcements, but OuHon did mention that sending any general to take over the command of the wing is quite easy for Ousen as there are numerous talented generals working under him. So it is not like he wasn't doing anything but it is only his calculations which were impeccable. He only lost once in this game with Riboku where opening initiative went with Riboku by slaying Makao and that was thing mentioned by Ousen.
@MarineHQ I'm not shitting on Riboku too much but it is only when people put Riboku above all and that is even when he lost coalition with double of the army and later at Sai he couldn't even capture a city in 7 or 8 days where no capable general was present or even army but sir Riboku wanted to move with caution even knowing such things.
Later at Shukai plains he lost even after having all the advantages but people still believes Riboku was superior but lost to young trios presence. Lol
@SakazOuki did i miss anything up there !?
About Ousen admitting Riboku having superior position while both of them employing similar strategies is just for the situation in the battlefield where it was Ousen who lost 2 of his generals first.
It doesn't mean he is admitting that he is inferior to Riboku as commander or strategist. He clearly said : "neither of us played any larger part in swaying the scale". This here already proved as a strategist or commander both were equal but Riboku got situational advantage which gave him superior position in battlefield in the beginning.
But remember it was Ousen who made Riboku believing that the whole battle is going according to there planned strategies but the one who was controlling even Riboku as his own pawn (that is even making opposition to move according to his own wishes) was Ousen. Here :
- Riboku said they hadn't gave any reinforcements since ninth day because if they chipped down there own numbers than Ousen would be taking immediate advantage of the situation.
- on the thirteenth day it was again said by Riboku and his men that, they stopped sending reinforcements after seeing Zhao getting pushed because of the pressure Ousen is exerting by coming close to there HQ.
- about Ousen not sending reinforcements, reason mentioned below but that is according to his plan as well.
Most important point
- Ousen's calculative timing on the destruction of Gyou's food stock. The timing was crucial thing as not only by then Qin's right wing pushed back Zhao but also had removed CGR and Riboku was only planned the strategies in the way of prolonging the war and destroy there food and morale. But Ousen from the night of thirteenth day made Riboku to running out time while in panic as well who got his all planned strategies wasted.
- crushing Zhao in central battlefield and making Riboku abandoning the ground with planning that he can still starve out Qin army in Gyou.
- lastly the food supply through a route which was even out of Riboku’s expectations.
Now for all those who are complaining that Ousen did nothing and waited for right wing to do all the things but remember Denrimi already stated that everything was happening according to Ousen's calculations and that includes even the awakening of two units or where Riboku going to panic or whatever he can't even think of to counter.
Now the point left above. Neither of the commanders send reinforcements, but OuHon did mention that sending any general to take over the command of the wing is quite easy for Ousen as there are numerous talented generals working under him. So it is not like he wasn't doing anything but it is only his calculations which were impeccable. He only lost once in this game with Riboku where opening initiative went with Riboku by slaying Makao and that was thing mentioned by Ousen.
@MarineHQ I'm not shitting on Riboku too much but it is only when people put Riboku above all and that is even when he lost coalition with double of the army and later at Sai he couldn't even capture a city in 7 or 8 days where no capable general was present or even army but sir Riboku wanted to move with caution even knowing such things.
Later at Shukai plains he lost even after having all the advantages but people still believes Riboku was superior but lost to young trios presence. Lol
@SakazOuki did i miss anything up there !?
