Powers & Abilities The Pinnacle of Dreams and Manifestation of Power

Who deserves to be the strongest character of One Piece?

  • Power-hungry warrior who desires nothing but strength.

  • Happy-go-lucky protagonist who desires freedom.


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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
:steef:My name was meant for all the people I defeat, and currently it also applies to you.
Oh so it made Zoro suffer the hakai for 2-3 more seconds:suresure:That's a new feat.
:kata:Your right it's exactly why Zoro is dogshit when compared to Luffy, Law, Kidd, old legends and the emperors.
Your name is fitting, that's all there is.
You wish that your faves faced Hakai.
However, they were too weak to do it.
Daddy Zoro had to step up instead. :myman:

The Zorotard hivemind even after how wano ended is disappointing to see. Y'all still misinterpret his character, huh? This isn't like a joke or something, you actually think Zoro > Luffy is plausible?
Did Zoro demolish a guy tougher than Kaido or did he not? Why would Zoro>Luffy be a joke after such a fact?
Or is Luffy tougher than Kaido and even tougher than Lunarian for Zoro to be unable to one-shot him?

It's always funny to see how Zoro fans trick other Zoro fans into believing their crackhead expectations for the character just to see Oda destroy the agenda every damn time. :gokulaugh::cheers:
Did Oda just give us an explanation for what Zoro's Demon God is through Vegapunk? :milaugh:
 
I love the irony in being a Zoro fan yet also hating on Luffy with any chance you get. Zoro would fr hate y'all :shame:
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@Wh1p you were right, worst generation has the worst case of zorostans I have ever seen. It's me unresponsive btw.
Ah, welcome to the cope zone. Also check out my new thread on either this site or fanverse! (I put in a lot of effort)
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Zoro would fr hate y'all :shame:
What do you think about this summary? :myman:
It is Oda who called Zoro one of the 3 triggers of the story.
One of the 3 triggers of the story is Power.
It is Oda who placed Strength(Power) into Zoro's head more than anything else, Swords are secondary to Strength(Power).
It is Oda who made the MC acknowledge that Zoro can pull through anything without making any exceptions.
It is Oda who made Zoro manifest power multiplication Demon God with his sheer willpower.
Zoro's Asura is power manifesting itself in a form of a god, there is no mistake about it. Zoro is Power.
Zoro's OST is named Very, Very, Very Strongest.
 
Your name is fitting, that's all there is.
You wish that your faves faced Hakai.
However, they were too weak to do it.
Daddy Zoro had to step up instead. :myman:
:kata:Keep coping with your daily dosage of copium.
No I don't :endthis:I would be a fool to want my favorite character to be embarrassed the way Zoro was.
"When you don't know how strong an attack is so you send your weakest pokemon" Zoro was doomed to try to block that attack due to how weak he is. He certainly gave Killer a run for his money in who is the weakest on rooftop.:cheers:

:milaugh:Mihawk should've replaced that failure with someone who is actually worth his time, maybe he should've picked brook since even he is superior to the greenmoss.
 
Post TS-Wano Zoro is the same tier, no improvements whatsoever and you tell me that Luffy is capable of rooftop Zoro's feats? lol
Wano rooftop- same tier? Luffy achieved nothing until 1010. How can that be considered the same tier as what Zoro acheived?
End of Wano - Zoro got better upgrades than Luffy. He is ahead, as he always was.
Zoro didn't achieve anything meaningful until Asura too, and Asrua was pretty confirmed to be accidental advanced conqueror's haki.

Prior to that, both Zoro and Luffy managed to damage Kaido with advanced armament.
Zoro's attack power was obviously more hyped, but Luffy had better CQC due to FS. So yeah, rooftop they were same tier.

Since rooftop supernova fight. Zoro got one powerup. Luffy got two.
So current Luffy is a tier stronger

Which captain had to go against god form manifestation of power? Which RHM or VC manifested Demon God by desiring power?
All of those arguments are valid to this day.
Where fandom places Zoro is irrelevant - what matters is what Oda is doing.
And he just gave us an explanation of what Zoro's Asura is - godhood manifestation of Power itself.

Wano plotlines dont matter - what matters is that Zoro demolished a guy tougher than Kaido.
Plotlines not being tied up dont affect the fact that guy tougher than Kaido was utterly defeated by Zoro's single swing of a sword.
The testaments of Zoro's Power arent missing. They keep pilling up.
All those were said by Oda pre TS. You can say that still stands, but how Oda treats Zoro (or any other SH) is pretty damn revealing..

Why don't plotlines matter? Them being sidelined and discarded in his own arc strongly suggests that current Oda doesn't give a single fuck about Zoro at this point.
It is the intent. He just wants Zoro to be strong enough to deal with misfits so that Luffy don't have to worry about them when he fights the endboss. So yeah, Zoro will be strong, almost as strong as Luffy.......all that will matter however in the end is that Zoro will deal with the 2nd strongest of whoever is after Imu. No plot going on for him, no narrative.

Zoro has always been Oda's device of "show dont tell" while Luffy is "tell dont show".
Narrative keeps praising Luffy while Zoro's feats rule the world.
Zoro isnt mean to be a mere VC so no point in wishing for it.
All that Zoro needs to do is leave the crew once he makes Luffy into Pirate King.
Joining the marines and hunting pirates as his nickname implies is the best possible ending for Zoro.
What feats my guy?

Luffy defeated a Yonko. Zoro defeated a YC1.
We can argue specifics all we want, like Kaido needing a gauntlet to go down. But Luffy in the end launched an island sized punch with advanced conqueror's haki of that range. More impressive than dragon damnation for sure

He didnt retcon Luffy's DF, he planned on it being Sun God since Skypiea.
Nobody simply desired freedom as much as Luffy to awaken it since Void Century.
Just like nobody desired Power more than Zoro for it to manifest in Demon God form.
Reality is that Power took God form first time in history and Zoro is the one who willed it into this world.
Luffy stands no chance as hard as it might be to understand but it is what it is.
Luffy was always intended to be joyboy/freedom incarnate, true about that. We saw hints about that in skypea, FMI etc.
But nothing suggested that he was a zoan.

But maybe you have a point here.

Still, am to be convinced about Zoro. Not because your argument is necessarily bad, but because I see what Oda has done post TS.
Maybe Oda had that in his mind pre TS, but given how badly Zoro has been treated post TS, I won't be convinced that it's in the plans until I see that Oda has anything in mind for Zoro other than to just have him be strong enough as plot requires.

Let Zoro have at least one active plotline aside from WSS that isn't sidelined/scrapped, then we can talk. Dude literally has NOTHING else than WSS plot going on for him post TS.

Seems like Oda will just give Zoro some "badass" panels like the sleep diff and cutting cyclones......cause apparently that's enough to keep Zbois happy, SMH.
 
:kata:Keep coping with your daily dosage of copium.
No I don't :endthis:I would be a fool to want my favorite character to be embarrassed the way Zoro was.
"When you don't know how strong an attack is so you send your weakest pokemon" Zoro was doomed to try to block that attack due to how weak he is. He certainly gave Killer a run for his money in who is the weakest on rooftop.:cheers:

:milaugh:Mihawk should've replaced that failure with someone who is actually worth his time, maybe he should've picked brook since even he is superior to the greenmoss.
Brook > Zoro thread when?
Brook certainly landed an attack on Big Mom 😂
 
I love the irony in being a Zoro fan yet also hating on Luffy with any chance you get. Zoro would fr hate y'all :shame:
Plenty of Luffy fans hate Zoro too, it goes both ways lol.

That's how fanbases of pretty much every character work, especially when there is some contrast between the said characters.

Yes maybe an Akainu 2 years ago but not anymore. He is superior currently.

I made a mistake with the list lol
1.Luffy
2.Imu or BB
3.BB or Imu
4.Donut maker
5.Sabo or donut maker

Maybe there will be a gauntlet however I hope it's not, I need reality warping feats to make fun of narutobros.
Sabo is superior to the donut I mean freckled boy(currently). Maybe he would have conquerors haki even if he doesn't he still can become powerful, I mean he is a powerful individual currently.
If ace was alive I would have them as equals with ace being in the lead by a little. Either way I still have him either superior or inferior to the donut maker.
Akainu's growth, if any since MF, would be minimal. He's 50+ years old and mastered his DF even by Marineford.
I do think he grew stronger. But from being Aokiji level to slightly stronger, due to potential haki bloom. Anyway, Mihawk > Shanks > Akainu is how I see things now. Akainu is top 5 right now, but won't be by EoS

Sabo can potentially be there if he has conqueror's haki. Or else he's capped, because that is how much of a difference maker advanced conqueror's is.
The only reason BB is getting there is due to having the most broken DFs in the verse (probably will have 3 by EoS), fire DF is really just an above average logia fruit.
If Ace was there alive EoS, it would be Luffy >= Ace >> Sabo.

Anyway. I can accept Luffy, Imu and BB being stronger than Zoro EoS.
The other two, nope.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
:kata:Keep coping with your daily dosage of copium.
No I don't :endthis:I would be a fool to want my favorite character to be embarrassed the way Zoro was.
"When you don't know how strong an attack is so you send your weakest pokemon" Zoro was doomed to try to block that attack due to how weak he is. He certainly gave Killer a run for his money in who is the weakest on rooftop.:cheers:

:milaugh:Mihawk should've replaced that failure with someone who is actually worth his time, maybe he should've picked brook since even he is superior to the greenmoss.
I cant cope because all the copium went into your name. :goyea:
I think it's cringe.
Facts are cringe indeed when you dont like them...


Zoro didn't achieve anything meaningful until Asura too, and Asrua was pretty confirmed to be accidental advanced conqueror's haki.

Prior to that, both Zoro and Luffy managed to damage Kaido with advanced armament.
Zoro's attack power was obviously more hyped, but Luffy had better CQC due to FS. So yeah, rooftop they were same tier.

Since rooftop supernova fight. Zoro got one powerup. Luffy got two.
So current Luffy is a tier stronger
Before the Power ups, Luffy's performance cannot be compared to Zoro's. Not even in the same dimension.
And how can you say that he achieved nothing when he saved Luffy's life 7 times, stopped both Emperors from wiping them out and proceeded to best Kaido and slash his chest open leaving permanent damage on Kaido's body that only one before him achieved?
To call all that same level as Luffy's is simply a lie and you know it. When hardcore Luffy fans admit Zoro is stronger you know what's up.

No, there is no confirmation for aCoC on Asura whatsoever. Not you nor anybody else can provide any evidence for it.
Luffy himself admitted that his hits acheived nothing and were still too shallow and all he managed to do is run out of juice and drag his team down. Since Rooftop, both of them got aCoC. After aCoC, Luffy got G5, Zoro got KOH. Zoro got haki based PUs and Haki transcends everything. Luffy had better CQC due to FS and still ended up hit while Zoro without FS never got hit? lol I am not sure if you know this matter good enough to have this convo... There is nobody in the world better at CQC than Zoro.

All those were said by Oda pre TS. You can say that still stands, but how Oda treats Zoro (or any other SH) is pretty damn revealing..

Why don't plotlines matter? Them being sidelined and discarded in his own arc strongly suggests that current Oda doesn't give a single fuck about Zoro at this point.
It is the intent. He just wants Zoro to be strong enough to deal with misfits so that Luffy don't have to worry about them when he fights the endboss. So yeah, Zoro will be strong, almost as strong as Luffy.......all that will matter however in the end is that Zoro will deal with the 2nd strongest of whoever is after Imu. No plot going on for him, no narrative.
It all stands and we just now understood what Demon God is...
Zoro is treated like always - show dont tell. He was a Conqueror without telling us he is one. Many denied him being one.
He is a Power manifested into Demon god form without telling us. People will deny it as they denied him being a CoC user.
Because the story can move on without them, everything was like a filler to this point, two Emperors are gone like they never existed.
What world-building is achieved by Zoro avenging Yasu, going to Ryuma's grave and being tied to Wano more? Nothing.
It would have been nice but it is nothing that One Piece cannot go on without. Character depth doesnt affect Zoro's power which goes only one way - up.
It turns out that the misfit Zoro dealt with was tougher than endboss Luffy dealt with. If he needed 7 attempts vs Kaido, imagine how many he would need against the misfit tougher than Kaido... Zoro always deals with those that Luffy cant beat.
Right now, there is nobody above Mihawk and if there ends up someone stronger, you can bet Zoro will go after thim.


What feats my guy?

Luffy defeated a Yonko. Zoro defeated a YC1.
We can argue specifics all we want, like Kaido needing a gauntlet to go down. But Luffy in the end launched an island sized punch with advanced conqueror's haki of that range. More impressive than dragon damnation for sure
The feats of facing a combined might of TWO Emperors, something that nobody in the world will ever.
The feats of leaving a scar on Kaido's dragon scales, something that nobody has achieved, Oden aside and Zoro did it without aCOC.
Luffy failed 7 times to defeat a Yonko with help of 15 people during a whole night.
Zoro demolished a Lunarian tougher than Kaido without any help, under 10 minutes.
You keep ignoring context and all you see is "Luffy beat a Yonko". He is not capable of beating a Yonko by himself.
Big fist is as impressive as Sanjuan Wolf being island sized, not at all. Dont bother comparing it to Dragon Damnation lol.

Luffy was always intended to be joyboy/freedom incarnate, true about that. We saw hints about that in skypea, FMI etc.
But nothing suggested that he was a zoan.

But maybe you have a point here.

Still, am to be convinced about Zoro. Not because your argument is necessarily bad, but because I see what Oda has done post TS.
Maybe Oda had that in his mind pre TS, but given how badly Zoro has been treated post TS, I won't be convinced that it's in the plans until I see that Oda has anything in mind for Zoro other than to just have him be strong enough as plot requires.

Let Zoro have at least one active plotline aside from WSS that isn't sidelined/scrapped, then we can talk. Dude literally has NOTHING else than WSS plot going on for him post TS.

Seems like Oda will just give Zoro some "badass" panels like the sleep diff and cutting cyclones......cause apparently that's enough to keep Zbois happy, SMH.
Zoan, Paramecia, Logia, it doesnt matter. It was a Sun God from the start.
Luffy fans have this tendency to talk themselves into a lie that Luffy is stronger than Zoro despite being proven wrong over and over...
East blue - Luffy stronger - Whiskey peak happens - he isnt stronger.
Paradise - Luffy stronger - Thriller bark happens - he isnt stronger.
New World - Luffy stronger - Wano rooftop happens - he isnt stronger.

Zoro can have 0 plotlines for all I care as long as his power stands where it should - at the top of One Piece world.
 
Akainu's growth, if any since MF, would be minimal. He's 50+ years old and mastered his DF even by Marineford.
I do think he grew stronger. But from being Aokiji level to slightly stronger, due to potential haki bloom. Anyway, Mihawk > Shanks > Akainu is how I see things now. Akainu is top 5 right now, but won't be by EoS

Sabo can potentially be there if he has conqueror's haki. Or else he's capped, because that is how much of a difference maker advanced conqueror's is.
The only reason BB is getting there is due to having the most broken DFs in the verse (probably will have 3 by EoS), fire DF is really just an above average logia fruit.
If Ace was there alive EoS, it would be Luffy >= Ace >> Sabo.

Anyway. I can accept Luffy, Imu and BB being stronger than Zoro EoS.
The other two, nope.
Luffy got stronger than his 2 years of training, the same could've happened to akainu since they're fated opponents.
Akainu>Mihawk>Lhanks
I believe akainu is going to be in the top 5 eos. I think Luffy would be superior to ace(if he were to still be alive) eos and the gap would be pretty large .

Let's just agree to disagree.
 
Plenty of Luffy fans hate Zoro too, it goes both ways lol.

That's how fanbases of pretty much every character work, especially when there is some contrast between the said characters.



Akainu's growth, if any since MF, would be minimal. He's 50+ years old and mastered his DF even by Marineford.
I do think he grew stronger. But from being Aokiji level to slightly stronger, due to potential haki bloom. Anyway, Mihawk > Shanks > Akainu is how I see things now. Akainu is top 5 right now, but won't be by EoS

Sabo can potentially be there if he has conqueror's haki. Or else he's capped, because that is how much of a difference maker advanced conqueror's is.
The only reason BB is getting there is due to having the most broken DFs in the verse (probably will have 3 by EoS), fire DF is really just an above average logia fruit.
If Ace was there alive EoS, it would be Luffy >= Ace >> Sabo.

Anyway. I can accept Luffy, Imu and BB being stronger than Zoro EoS.
The other two, nope.
My opinion is that EOS will be Luffy, Zoro, Akainu, BB, Mihawk and Sabo. Respectively each fighting each.
Top 6, nobody even close.
 
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