Which character is stronger ?


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Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they are two awakened Zoan users sharing the exact same form. They've far surpassed Mr Go's feats, who struggled to put down Izo in a 2v1. Izo, who is no higher than YC4. Making Mr Go Vet-level.

No Vet-level character could ever hope to match G5 Luffy in a clash of fists or push back Zoro to any degree. Lucci and Kaku are clearly high-tiers.

But their strength is irrelevant, you can place them wherever you want. What's relevant is that Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they share the exact same power-up right down to the design. There's nothing suggesting Lucci is levels above Kaku anymore, meaning Base Zoro using hardening is comparable to G5 Luffy using hardening - especially since he overpowered a Kaku using higher-end attacks than Lucci used.
Lucci/Kaku are above queen prove me wrong:cheers:, the same Queen is a danger for someone like Izo:milaugh:

What do you think about Kaku getting the same power than Lucci in only 2 years while Lucci knew his fruit power for a longer time?

Aint that an indirect W for Kaku? (this are the only 2 that got promoted to CP0 from the original CP9) aint also that a W for Kaku (from Lucci I would expect that not from Kaku)
 
So despite people saying Zoro sleep diff Kaku, it was literally the same as when Sanji overpowered S-Shark. Damn so many people jumped the gun
Sanji didn't do shit.
After he sent S Shark flying which basically did 0 damage, S Shark quickly retaliated and almost hit Robin, and Sanji couldn't even stop that.

Zoro bullied Kaku and Lucci got panicked so fast he told all the Seraphims to quickly interfere.
 
Except Sanji and half the crew were struggling and were wondering how to hurt the s-jumbo while Zoro overpowered and said to kaku "you are a nuisance".

Hmm a difference no ?
Zoro couldn't even make Kaku bleed while using swords and him not being a "most powerful being in the seas"

Kaku pushed Zoro back
meanwhile S-Jinbe couldn't do anything to Sanji
 
...What? What kind of retarded shit is that?

Is Momo as strong as Kaido for having the same mythical zoan?

Where did they surpass Mr Go?

Go went and blitzed between Kaido and Luffy while they were charging at each other and overpowered Luffy.

There's no proof that Kaku & Lucci would be able to beat fresh Izo 2v1
Simply having a DF =/= Awakening your fruit with the exact same design. That is a piss-poor comparison, try again.

Mr Go did not overpower Luffy, he grabbed his arm when he wasn't looking lmfaoo. Zoro is a low top-tier, Luffy is a mid top-tier - no feat of Mr Go compares to pushing back either of these characters. Lucci straight up clashed equally with G5 Luffy.
 
Except Sanji and half the crew were struggling and were wondering how to hurt the s-jumbo while Zoro overpowered and said to kaku "you are a nuisance".

Hmm a difference no ?
Keep lying to urself no one was struggling maybe ussop or nami and thats obvious, and seraphim atleast showed capable vs yonko kaku just came out to get trashed by stussy sera>kaku any day
 

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Zoro couldn't even make Kaku bleed while using swords and him not being a "most powerful being in the seas"

Kaku pushed Zoro back
meanwhile S-Jinbe couldn't do anything to Sanji
Kaku pushed Zoro back with a named attack and got slammed down. No one says Zoro's base attacks could beat these guys. Lol, S-Shark is supposed to hurt Sanji from getting kicked by Sanji At least make it make sense.
 
Is kaku still 20 doriki>jyabura?

Kaku and lucci got the same portrayal
Same rank
Lucci is the one making decision within this CP0 squad so obviously he has senorship. He was also passing commands to the Wano CP0 group.

It's no different from Zoro taking charge when Luffy is not around.

Same new attacks
Lucci has nothing on Kaku
They dont have the same attacks, nor does it matter if they did. Pre timeskip Lucci and Kaku both had hybrid forms yet still Lucci was far stronger.

Lucci is individually stronger than Kaku, that is literally a manga fact.
 
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Keep lying to urself no one was struggling maybe ussop or nami and thats obvious, and seraphim atleast showed capable vs yonko kaku just came out to get trashed by stussy sera>kaku any day
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Squard> WB now?

Attacking someone When they are off gaurd is never counted as a feat.
 
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