Speculations Elbaf is a physical, Lunarian "God" ruling over Giants.

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

rather than lunarians being the gods of elbaf i think they might be a kind of ancestral enemy. "the only thing we can't pierce is the great serpent soaked in blood" suggests the red line as the midgarsormr but it also suggests a war against the red line that the giants didn't win

 

[Paperchampion23]

im into it until the lunarian thing. but now im expecting Elbaf to be a living figure like Elbaf's god-king. Or that we'll see the hito hito no mi: model elbaf

My main point with the Lunarian thing is it seems the WG forced them to go "somewhere" but we dont know where. Alber seems to be from a stranded line but we do not know enough about them.

Anyway, I just figured Elbaf = Tree = Sky Islands possibly, and Lunarians are largely unexplored on the mythos still. If Elbaf is a physical being, definitely doesnt have to be a Lunarian though lol

 

[Xione]

My main point with the Lunarian thing is it seems the WG forced them to go "somewhere" but we dont know where. Alber seems to be from a stranded line but we do not know enough about them.

But what you're implying with this is that Lunarians are the superior race. When the entire series has been telling us there is no superior race than the Giants.

It'd make virtually 0 sense for the strongest race in the world of one piece to be ruled by a race that was weak enough to be exterimanated to near the last man. And then (if going by your theory) had to seek shelter under the Giants.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

My main point with the Lunarian thing is it seems the WG forced them to go "somewhere" but we dont know where. Alber seems to be from a stranded line but we do not know enough about them.

Anyway, I just figured Elbaf = Tree = Sky Islands possibly, and Lunarians are largely unexplored on the mythos still. If Elbaf is a physical being, definitely doesnt have to be a Lunarian though lol

hmmmm. im with you though, there might be a connection. if King isn't literally the last surviving Lunarian maybe there are more hiding out on Elbaf, its one of the last islands left that people can hide from the government at. i don't think the giants worship them but there may be some connection there.

 

[Paperchampion23]

But what you're implying with this is that Lunarians are the superior race. When the entire series has been telling us there is no superior race than the Giants.

It'd make virtually 0 sense for the strongest race in the world of one piece to be ruled by a race that was weakness to be exterimanated to near the last man. And then (if going by your theory) had to seek shelter under the Giants.

I personally dont think Lunarians were a concept when Little Garden was a thing lol. And I also am not implying the Giants are fully aware of the Lunarians above them, if they exist.

I think the giants being the superior race thing died the moment BM started destroying them as a child lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

My main point with the Lunarian thing is it seems the WG forced them to go "somewhere" but we dont know where. Alber seems to be from a stranded line but we do not know enough about them.

Anyway, I just figured Elbaf = Tree = Sky Islands possibly, and Lunarians are largely unexplored on the mythos still. If Elbaf is a physical being, definitely doesnt have to be a Lunarian though lol

The only reason I doubt Lunarians would be in Elbaf is because Big Mom spent so much time in Elbaf but still believes that lunarians are extinct.

 

[Paperchampion23]

hmmmm. im with you though, there might be a connection. if King isn't literally the last surviving Lunarian maybe there are more hiding out on Elbaf, its one of the last islands left that people can hide from the government at. i don't think the giants worship them but there may be some connection there.

For sure, it rides on the idea that the rest are hiding or "lurking" if you will lol

But yeah, not really a big theory thats bullet proof, just an idea

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The only reason I doubt Lunarians would be in Elbaf is because Big Mom spent so much time in Elbaf but still believes that lunarians are extinct.

So what i should have communicated better in the OP is that imo, the Giants arent aware of Elbaf's true physical presence. That the tree is so large that they cannot or havent climbed to the top. Maybe that helps lol. Idk pulling shit out of my ass at this point


Edit: Sort of like how Enel was this "otherworldly" god to skypians, but I guess they knew he existed at least physically.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

huh. i thought odin was a god of knowledge and magic but apparently hes primarily a war god. so if elbaf were the top god and the king its probably likely that hes based on odin. maybe elbaf is the eyepatch pirate lol

 

[ConquistadoR]

My main point with the Lunarian thing is it seems the WG forced them to go "somewhere" but we dont know where. Alber seems to be from a stranded line but we do not know enough about them.

Queen & Big Mom did say that Lunarians are extinct or close to extinction, no?

 

[Paperchampion23]

huh. i thought odin was a god of knowledge and magic but apparently hes primarily a war god. so if elbaf were the top god and the king its probably likely that hes based on odin. maybe elbaf is the eyepatch pirate lol

Odin and his ravens (black wings)

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Queen & Big Mom did say that Lunarians are extinct or close to extinction, no?

That they know of. What i should have said in the OP is that who knows if Elbaf or the rest of the world even knows of their existance. Most people didnt believe Skypiea was real for example

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Eh, Imu isn’t a giant.

Maybe he is. In Norse mythology, not all Jotnar were giant.

Maybe Imu is like a reverse Big Mom, a giant who was born unnaturally small. Or maybe he ate a DF or something.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Maybe he is. In Norse mythology, not all Jotnar were giant.

Maybe Imu is like a reverse Big Mom, a giant who was born unnaturally small. Or maybe he ate a DF or something.

That is fair. But personally I’m still hedging on Imu being alabastan.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Giant King > Admirals

 

[BattalGazi]

Sanji will find Gungnir and Usopp will find Myolnir in Elbaf, coolest moment will be when Sanji and Usopp uses Warrior nation attack together.

 

[Herrera95]

Which actually is possible, considering Nika. Im just stating hes a physical being and also possibly Lunarian. Said being could also have eaten a DF as well.

Idk, its just an idea to tie a villain to Elbaf.

Forget Elbaf as an arc

 

[Boris D. Foot]

Interesting :cheers:

 

[Paperchampion23]

Forget Elbaf as an arc

Its an arc lol, and probably a big one

 

[Boris D. Foot]

Its an arc lol, and probably a big one

Definitely gonna be getting some big lore drops.

 

[Herrera95]

Its an arc lol, and probably a big one

Kid's arc which we won't see

 

[Paperchampion23]

Kid's arc which we won't see

Its honestly dumb you are this cynical. You know fully well Oda doesnt hide/tease islands and not show sillhouettes for years only to skip said location. It has never happened once in this series. Elbaf is the series most important location behind Laugh Tale.

Also, someone clearly didnt read the end of Wano lol. Luffy is going where Kid and Law go, just several islands behind