Speculations Elbaf is a physical, Lunarian "God" ruling over Giants.
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btw @Paperchampion23 whats your take on zunesha being at elbaf? ive been thinking about it and im pretty sure this is just zunesha.
a lot of people say its a beanstalk, or the adam tree or yggdrasil or w/e but that's the object to the right side, bordering the panel.
you can see its canopy here, so that's the giant tree. but the silhouette thing in the back isnt there in any of the other panels. i don't think it's like, a beanstalk that got cut down. it's just zunesha.
so not only will Elbaf be an arc, Carrot will be there
a lot of people say its a beanstalk, or the adam tree or yggdrasil or w/e but that's the object to the right side, bordering the panel.
you can see its canopy here, so that's the giant tree. but the silhouette thing in the back isnt there in any of the other panels. i don't think it's like, a beanstalk that got cut down. it's just zunesha.
so not only will Elbaf be an arc, Carrot will be there
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You clearly didn't read all 1073 chapters of One Piece otherwise you would know that there are several ways to reach the same location in One Piece World. Law went ahead, Kid at the middle and Luffy behind but that doesn't mean he will visit the same islands they visited. Log Poses set the next location so they can or cannot go there.
And if Kid is already there what is the purpose for Luffy? When we visited an island someone else was there already? We didn't visited any island that Supernova went when they get into New World. We didn't visited the island where Ace got defeated. We didn't visited the island where Mihawk met Shanks.
And if Kid is already there what is the purpose for Luffy? When we visited an island someone else was there already? We didn't visited any island that Supernova went when they get into New World. We didn't visited the island where Ace got defeated. We didn't visited the island where Mihawk met Shanks.
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Wano was mentioned in Thriller Bark but I'm not assuming that as build up. Wano build up started at Punk Hazard. Elbaf was only mentioned at Little Garden but that isn't a build up at all. If anything Elbaf build up is starting only now(not even at WCI where Big Mom again only metioned).
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We didn't saw anyone at Wano before we get there. Are you stupid?
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We didn't saw anyone at Wano before we get there. Are you stupid?
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Dorry's and Brogy's backstories are more than just a mention of Elbaf. That alone is set up, without considering Usopp's ties to the island.
I'll concede that Wano was mentioned at least twice before the timeskip. But Elbaf has had a greater grip on the fandom as a whole, something that Wano only accomplished until the story actually went there, at which point it all went to shit.
Elbaf has too many thematic elements for it to happen off screen. Loki and Big Mom/Lola, the Adam tree, the past giant crew, Usopp's god status, Saul, now Kid too. Elbaf has to happen on screen, and it has to include the SHs, not just some redheaded punk ass bitch like Kid.
I'll concede that Wano was mentioned at least twice before the timeskip. But Elbaf has had a greater grip on the fandom as a whole, something that Wano only accomplished until the story actually went there, at which point it all went to shit.
Elbaf has too many thematic elements for it to happen off screen. Loki and Big Mom/Lola, the Adam tree, the past giant crew, Usopp's god status, Saul, now Kid too. Elbaf has to happen on screen, and it has to include the SHs, not just some redheaded punk ass bitch like Kid.
Bro, the islands are converging to Lodestar. Thats actually how it works. And Luffy, Kid and Law are not all on different paths on GL. They all left from the same island. It was already implied thar Luffy has to make up the distance that Kid and Law gain on him with their routes. We are going to Elbaf lmao.
Imagine fighting this argument
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- Little Garden (Dorry and Broggy say they will meet again at Elbaf)
- Enies Lobby (Oimo and Kaashi tell thrm they will meet again at Elbaf)
- Cover Story (Oimo and Kaashi leave for Elbaf)
- Sabaody (The giant Rayleigh saved said the same exact thing after being rescued).
- Punk Hazard (Gigantification and teasing Elbaf's danger to the rest of the world)
- Dressrosa (Hadjrudeen talks about Elbaf several times)
And more. But no, just referenced at WCI with an island silhouette that Oda refuses to show and an unfinished BM plotline lol
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It totally could be lol, Im just not entirely sure what Oda is going for yet with it lol
Imagine fighting this argument
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- Little Garden (Dorry and Broggy say they will meet again at Elbaf)
- Enies Lobby (Oimo and Kaashi tell thrm they will meet again at Elbaf)
- Cover Story (Oimo and Kaashi leave for Elbaf)
- Sabaody (The giant Rayleigh saved said the same exact thing after being rescued).
- Punk Hazard (Gigantification and teasing Elbaf's danger to the rest of the world)
- Dressrosa (Hadjrudeen talks about Elbaf several times)
And more. But no, just referenced at WCI with an island silhouette that Oda refuses to show and an unfinished BM plotline lol
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btw @Paperchampion23 whats your take on zunesha being at elbaf? ive been thinking about it and im pretty sure this is just zunesha.
a lot of people say its a beanstalk, or the adam tree or yggdrasil or w/e but that's the object to the right side, bordering the panel.
you can see its canopy here, so that's the giant tree. but the silhouette thing in the back isnt there in any of the other panels. i don't think it's like, a beanstalk that got cut down. it's just zunesha.
so not only will Elbaf be an arc, Carrot will be there
a lot of people say its a beanstalk, or the adam tree or yggdrasil or w/e but that's the object to the right side, bordering the panel.
you can see its canopy here, so that's the giant tree. but the silhouette thing in the back isnt there in any of the other panels. i don't think it's like, a beanstalk that got cut down. it's just zunesha.
so not only will Elbaf be an arc, Carrot will be there
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Nope, no one talked about Elbaf until BM brought that up in WCI.
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Like you said island are converging to Lodestar which means there is more than one route to it. Doesn't matter if they were all in the same island at a point now they are going their own paths. Nothing indicates that Luffy will travel to the same islands Kid and Law travelled.
I was talking about fandom. No one was talking about Elbaf until WCI.
But Ok, Dorry and Broggy mentioned Elbaf for the first time. An introduction but not a build up. Is something Usopp wants to do in the future nothing that they need to do now. They were in Baroque Works Saga so that introduction was highly hidden by the main issue of the time(Alabasta Arc and defeat Crocodile). No reason to going to Elbaf.
Enies Lobby another 2 giants talking about Elbaf and again being highly hidden by the main issue of the time(Save Robin). No reason to going to Elbaf.
Cover Story doesn't mean a shit. No reason to going to Elbaf.
Sabaody we had a random giant talking about Elbaf, who cares? At least the other giants had a little more dialogue/interaction. No reason to going to Elbaf.
Punk Hazard, giantification not at all related to Elbaf so far all Giants met in One Piece looked like shit to be considered relevant. No reason to going to Elbaf.
Dressrosa, the giant fodder that was one-shotted by Luffy and suddenly became relevant in the arc and then relevant to the whole story. He said he would reunite Giants again. Himself not Luffy so no reason to going to Elbaf.
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Like you said island are converging to Lodestar which means there is more than one route to it. Doesn't matter if they were all in the same island at a point now they are going their own paths. Nothing indicates that Luffy will travel to the same islands Kid and Law travelled.
I was talking about fandom. No one was talking about Elbaf until WCI.
But Ok, Dorry and Broggy mentioned Elbaf for the first time. An introduction but not a build up. Is something Usopp wants to do in the future nothing that they need to do now. They were in Baroque Works Saga so that introduction was highly hidden by the main issue of the time(Alabasta Arc and defeat Crocodile). No reason to going to Elbaf.
Enies Lobby another 2 giants talking about Elbaf and again being highly hidden by the main issue of the time(Save Robin). No reason to going to Elbaf.
Cover Story doesn't mean a shit. No reason to going to Elbaf.
Sabaody we had a random giant talking about Elbaf, who cares? At least the other giants had a little more dialogue/interaction. No reason to going to Elbaf.
Punk Hazard, giantification not at all related to Elbaf so far all Giants met in One Piece looked like shit to be considered relevant. No reason to going to Elbaf.
Dressrosa, the giant fodder that was one-shotted by Luffy and suddenly became relevant in the arc and then relevant to the whole story. He said he would reunite Giants again. Himself not Luffy so no reason to going to Elbaf.
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