One Piece Chapter 1,074: " Mark 3"

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I wouldnt compare Luffy's promises BM vs Shanks, a character who is just as old as the MC and started his tragectory.

And its not about "bad blood" with Luffy. Its about direct statements made by both characters:

- "As long as Shanks isnt first"
- "The time for us to meet is very soon....Luffy" (my profile pic)
- "Its time to go after One Piece".

Hell, hes going aftrr Luffy's fleet, you guys realize that right? I never understood the whole BB vs Shanks theory in isolation. They have history, and yes, their stories will be tied together, but this this will not happen without Luffy.
As long as shanks isn't first - as I said, he didn't beat BM so we can't take what Luffy said as he really means it.

The time for us to meet very soon - this is going on from the beginning and it's about the promise - When shanks passed down the strawhat.


It's time to go after one piece - this is the only time shanks showed interest but this doesn't mean he is going after luffy. And, there is another one who is going after one piece - BB


Shanks literally stopped GB from going after SHs - no way shanks vs luffy will happen seriously unless you think shanks is evil and for which we have little to no credible evidence.

That's why I said, shanks shares more bad blood with BB because there is literally nothing of such thing (bad blood) going between shanks and luffy
 

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I think at first Straw Hats will look like they have the upper hand (to show it's not Sabaody anymore) but then Kizaru awakening/Saturn show off /make the seraphims and the pacifista switch side/ will force the straw hats to retreat.
Still a W for the crew as they would accomplish their objective (escaping with Vegapunk), but while still keeping some hype for the WG.
Idk man

I think SHs are about to get some sort of L here.

No one is expecting kizaru and saturn.

With seraphim and traitor, odds are against SHs..

Seraphim alone can handle everyone bar top 4 (that too I am being generous by not saying bar two)

They will escape somehow but I do think someone might die here
I wouldn't be too concerned about the definition of a traitor here
Right now it's a Saboteur more than anything rn
But if it turns out to be an ally then it'll be a traitor


That is a fair point as Bonney, Straw Hats, and CP0 ran into trouble reaching the island

I'm thinking the Clear Clear fruit is what gets him through, like we saw in Thriller Bark the Clear Clear fruit can make other things invisible as well. Which could easily extend to making a ship invisible also. And we saw that Vegapunk's sensors were potentially not able to detect him, and when Absalom used it even Chopper couldn't smell him anymore.

So it would simply be a matter of making a small but viable craft invisible and sailing right in


I think the explosion might have been an unrelated cut, though it will be hard to say for sure until we get an update on the fella
If he got blown to pieces the explosion was related, if he simply disappears than it wasn't

Makes me realize that Lilith has been missing also, she's currently the red herring for me rn so I think she got nabbed as well
Making a small object like a gun invisible is much easier than whole ship unless shiryu is already awakened.


But then as well I really doubt he made it because let's assume he actually made a ship invisible.

But the moment he will get off from ship to land on egghead, the ship will become visible and alarm would set off.
 
Idk man

I think SHs are about to get some sort of L here.

No one is expecting kizaru and saturn.

With seraphim and traitor, odds are against SHs..

Seraphim alone can handle everyone bar top 4 (that too I am being generous by not saying bar two)

They will escape somehow but I do think someone might die here

Making a small object like a gun invisible is much easier than whole ship unless shiryu is already awakened.


But then as well I really doubt he made it because let's assume he actually made a ship invisible.

But the moment he will get off from ship to land on egghead, the ship will become visible and alarm would set off.
i do think they'll get some sort of L, but it can't be remake Sabaody either.
I guess some of vegapunk bodies could get destroyed lol
may stussy stay behind
 
I fear for Lilith, Atlas and Stussy's life. York is the traitor. Greed is bad :lusalty:

Shaka is too suspicious to be the traitor, but it's still possible he is, or one of them.

Poor Kuma.. and more clones of him. I feel like Oda is running out of ideas for original characters and just keeps cloning people especially Kuma.
 

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i do think they'll get some sort of L, but it can't be remake Sabaody either.
I guess some of vegapunk bodies could get destroyed lol
may stussy stay behind
Definitely it won't be repeat of Sabody as there isn't any kuma there to help this time lol


But if I have to bet then it's Stella or stussy - one of them might get sacrificed with WG receiving damages in return.

I am confused about stella - if traitor already has stella then why is he still going after others?

And, if he doesn't have stella then where stella is?

If not for Stella interaction with dragon, I would have said stella is the traitor lol
 
As long as shanks isn't first - as I said, he didn't beat BM so we can't take what Luffy said as he really means it.

The time for us to meet very soon - this is going on from the beginning and it's about the promise - When shanks passed down the strawhat.


It's time to go after one piece - this is the only time shanks showed interest but this doesn't mean he is going after luffy. And, there is another one who is going after one piece - BB


Shanks literally stopped GB from going after SHs - no way shanks vs luffy will happen seriously unless you think shanks is evil and for which we have little to no credible evidence.

That's why I said, shanks shares more bad blood with BB because there is literally nothing of such thing (bad blood) going between shanks and luffy
Its tiring having to explain this to people.

- Returning the hat was never that simple, nor made to be. Luffy had directly stated he wants to defeat Shanks (twice no less), and yet we ignore it and say it means nothing but returning the hat. "Congrats! You did it!":seriously:

- Big Mom and Shanks are not remotely comparable. Big Mom losing to Law and Kid is a byproduct of the plot. Oda wanted to remove 2 Yonko and he had Luffy's allies handle it. Thats that. Trying to use that to say Luffy's words mean nothing to a far more important character is a bad argument.

- Literally the chapter before he mentioned going after Luffy's fleet. Explain that please. Shanks stopping Ryo has nothing to do with being on Luffy's "side".

- Explain the Gorosei scene. If its so obvious that Shanks hates BB, why hide the pirate Shanks is talking about? Why have him talk to the enemy? You dont pent these questions up without some direct antagonistic motivation. The reader is supposed to think something is wrong with Shanks here.

Im not saying BB vs Shanks cant happen, but to act like itll happen in a bubble or that one will lose without the MC is ridiculous. There are too many unfininished interactions and mysteries behind Shanks' group and Luffy for that to happen. This is why Ill never understand why people think BB will defeat Shanks really in any capacity.

Its just as ridiculous as Shanks defeating BB in the opposite fashion. Theres zero reason to think either will fight and kill the other.
 
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