Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

Where you got that much of our prudish stuff came from British Conquering us?

Read sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57606847

https://www.firstpost.com/living/se...-prudish-excesses-of-the-british-1295899.html

https://academic.oup.com/book/8180/chapter-abstract/153706003?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://gal-dem.com/section-377-painful-relic-britains-colonial-oppression-india/

You can look up more yourself. It's your country after all¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or just admit that you have a personal bias and refuse to have a clear look on history.

 

[Uncle Van]

What happened here lmao

From the looks of it, Solis is once again trolling/baiting C4N to virtue signal. It's what at least 65% of this thread has been about

 

[Cross_Marian]

You are adding fallacies on fallacies. Where did I say that wearing cloth was oppressive and/or toxic



You better.. I don't like lyers



He was actually stating the opposite...


Those guys can't read correctly...

You call me a liar? I think you have amnesia
You said that nudity in public is okay
I said no and it doesn’t fit in our society/culture. There’s something called intimacy
Then you said this

"If the culture is hegemonic and imperialist, patriarcal and capitalist.. then yes.. I think changing the culture to supress its most toxic traits is the ethical thing to do."
????
You replied to this topic with such an answer

 

[Reborn]

Read sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57606847

https://www.firstpost.com/living/se...-prudish-excesses-of-the-british-1295899.html

https://academic.oup.com/book/8180/chapter-abstract/153706003?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://gal-dem.com/section-377-painful-relic-britains-colonial-oppression-india/

You can look up more yourself. It's your country after all¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or just admit that you have a personal bias and refuse to have a clear look on history.

3 of your articles date back to decade ago.


First of all, our laws do have roots in brtish rule but because they actually laid down an elaborate system of laws.

Second, our constitution actually consider customs laid down in society as part of law

Values which goes back to ancient times.

Third, we have been independent since 1947 - short time and we have amended laws as our society progressed and modernised but without affecting our value system which goes back to 1000s of years back


Third, the section you mentioned got repealed and we also have an act which states " every person has right to be recognised as trans"

 

[Logiko]

You said that nudity in public is okay

Yup. Nudity in public is okay.

You said that nudity in public is okay
I said no and it doesn’t fit in our society/culture. There’s something called intimacy
Then you said this

Carrotfornakama said: "If the culture is hegemonic and imperialist, patriarcal and capitalist.. then yes.. I think changing the culture to supress its most toxic traits is the ethical thing to do."


You replied to this topic with such an answer

No mate. I replied to that:

I’m not trying to change their culture but people like C4N think it’s okay to change the culture of many countries
Don’t you see how hypocritical this is?

So saying : ""If the culture is hegemonic and imperialist, patriarcal and capitalist.. then yes.. I think changing the culture to supress its most toxic traits is the ethical thing to do."" is completely logical and on a topic not related to nudity and oppression.

Let me state very clearly that I don't like people who try to manipulate opinion like you are trying to do right now.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

3 of your articles date back to decade ago.


First of all, our laws do have roots in brtish rule but because they actually laid down an elaborate system of laws.

Second, our constitution actually consider customs laid down in society as part of law

Values which goes back to ancient times.

Third, we have been independent since 1947 - short time and we have amended laws as our society progressed and modernised but without affecting our value system which goes back to 1000s of years back


Third, the section you mentioned got repealed and we also have an act which states " every person has right to be recognised as trans"

Our convo in a nutshell:

Reborn: hi I'm from India. btw I like stuck up sexual morals a lot
European internet user: India's sexual morals of today are strongly influenced by British colonialism
Reborn: WHAT?? YOU'RE PRO COLONIALISM?!?!?! YOU EVIL EUROPEAN, HOW DARE YOU

European internet user: look up research papers, historical facts don't care about your or mine or anyone's feelings.
Here are some examples I found after 5 minute Google search.
Reborn: I don't want to address your points nor link sources for my statements
'SINCE ANCIENT TIMES' = I don't want to take a look at research and evidence, I love the idea of historical continuity to bits and don't want evidence to shatter my heart




Reborn, I know people like you. I have relatives who are like this.
In love with supposed 'traditions' that are max 200 years old, a propaganda cherrypicked version of history in your head, scared of research or evidence because you fear to lose that perfect image of your country and heritage that fills you with pride and comfort.



And aggressive reaction when anyone dares to touch or question your views.

 

[Reborn]

Our convo in a nutshell:

Reborn: hi I'm from India. btw I like stuck up sexual morals a lot
European internet user: India's sexual morals of today are strongly influenced by British colonialism
Reborn: WHAT?? YOU'RE PRO COLONIALISM?!?!?! YOU EVIL EUROPEAN, HOW DARE YOU

European internet user: look up research papers, historical facts don't care about your or mine or anyone's feelings.
Here are some examples I found after 5 minute Google search.
Reborn: I don't want to address your points nor link sources for my statements
'SINCE ANCIENT TIMES' = I don't want to take a look at research and evidence, I love the idea of historical continuity to bits and don't want evidence to shatter my heart




Reborn, I know people like you. I have relatives who are like this.
In love with supposed 'traditions' that are max 200 years old, a propaganda cherrypicked version of history in your head, scared of research or evidence because you fear to lose that perfect image of your country and heritage that fills you with pride and comfort.



And aggressive reaction when anyone dares to touch or question your views.

Lol

You seriously didn't read those articles yourself I guess.

I already answered what those articles say. It's about section 377 and it has been repealed


And, if you think that our culture is just 200 years old and then you live under a rock who knows nothing but pretends to act like know it all

Our culture dates back to 3500.BC when we had Indus valley civilization and it's got diffused with time


And, yes I take pride in my culture


Better than you who takes pride in hating all humans and brings nothing to discussion except making provocative statements without knowing shit.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Lol

You seriously didn't read those articles yourself I guess.

I already answered what those articles say. It's about section 377 and it has been repealed


And, if you think that our culture is just 200 years old and then you live under a rock who knows nothing but pretends to act like know it all

Our culture dates back to 3500.BC when we had Indus valley civilization and it's got diffused with time


And, yes I take pride in my culture


Better than you who takes pride in hating all humans and being overly pessimistic clown and brings nothing to discussion except making provocative statements without knowing shit.


As I said, go crawl under your bed or rock form where you surfaced Solis.

Ok reborn I'm ending this discussion because it's no use¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You like to cherrypick my responses
And I never said that your civilisation is 200 years old.

Triggered nationalist behave like children when they're emotionally hurt by facts

 

[Cross_Marian]

Yup. Nudity in public is okay.



No mate. I replied to that:



So saying : ""If the culture is hegemonic and imperialist, patriarcal and capitalist.. then yes.. I think changing the culture to supress its most toxic traits is the ethical thing to do."" is completely logical and on a topic not related to nudity and oppression.

Let me state very clearly that I don't like people who try to manipulate opinion like you are trying to do right now.

You’re accusing me with something big here
The whole topic is about nudity as a culture. You try to change the culture in this regard
In our culture it’s inappropriate to walk naked in public. What should I think after your reply to this topic?

Don’t skip parts of this discussion and don’t scheme everything according to your view

btw you don’t have to like me because we probably wouldn’t like each other in real life either way. I don’t care but don’t accuse me with something I didn’t do

 

[Reborn]

Ok reborn I'm ending this discussion because it's no use¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You like to cherrypick my responses
And I never said that your civilisation is 200 years old.

Triggered nationalist behave like children when they're emotionally hurt by facts

In love with supposed 'traditions' that are max 200 years old, a propaganda cherrypicked version of history in your head,

Taking pride in your culture isn't nationalist per se. We cherish values but not orthodox values which hampers right.

And, you know nothing Solis. You read few articles and behave as if you everything..

A worst gen clown... that's all you are.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Taking pride in your culture isn't nationalist per se. We cherish values but not orthodox values which hampers right.

And, you know nothing Solis. You read few articles and behave as if you everything..

A worst gen clown... that's all you are.

You dismiss the fact that European colonialism profoundly shaped the traditions of many countries.

Right now you are behaving like a 9 year old who dropped his ice cream and resort to personal attacks because you're out of arguments.

Likewise, you know nothing about me or my life.

Go back to spreading fake news FakeBorn, be the better Worstgen clown.

 

[Reborn]

You dismiss the fact that European colonialism profoundly shaped the traditions of many countries.

Right now you are behaving like a 9 year old who dropped his ice cream and resort to personal attacks because you're out of arguments.

Likewise, you know nothing about me or my life.

Go back to spreading fake news FakeBorn, be the better Worstgen clown.

Where you got that much of our prudish stuff came from British Conquering us?

First of all, our laws do have roots in brtish rule but because they actually laid down an elaborate system of laws.

Second, our constitution actually consider customs laid down in society as part of law

Values which goes back to ancient times.

Third, we have been independent since 1947 - short time and we have amended laws as our society progressed and modernised but without affecting our value system which goes back to 1000s of years back

"

This is what happens when one doesn't read properly and jump to the conclusion. Never denied British rule didn't have any impact -

Clearly said our laws are based on British rule law

Clearly said that section 377 was rooted in them but got repealed and we have an act now in place which gives every person right to identify themselves as trans

But our values goes way before that...and that was my point.

I apologize if you felt that I am making personal comments and are hurt

 

[Logiko]

The whole topic is about nudity as a culture.

The topic is about politic. You derive, you take people with you. Simple.

What should I think after your reply to this topic?

btw you don’t have to like me because we probably wouldn’t like each other in real life either way. I don’t care but don’t accuse me with something I didn’t do

Still not seeing your mistake... oh well.. wuateva.. Think what you want sir.

 

[Doggo]

Depp is nuts
Heard is evil

They are both nuts and evil.

The only difference between them was that Derp lawyers were much better than Heard's.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

They are both nuts and evil.

The only difference between them was that Derp lawyers were much better than Heard's.

So Amber's with all her Millions can't afford good lawyers?

 

[Reborn]

I can do the same:

GET LOST WORTHLESS WHORE YOU BELONG IN THE GUTTER WORTHLESS TRASH




omg I feel so cool now

Do you seriously think you can get under my nerves with such statements.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Do you seriously think you can get under my nerves with such statements.

*BABY NOISES BABY NOISES BABY NOISES BABY NOISES *

 

[Reborn]

*BABY NOISES BABY NOISES BABY NOISES BABY NOISES *

I guess our argument is over.

Let's move on instead of making it more annoying for others.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I guess our argument is over.

Let's move on instead of making it more annoying for others.

* BABY NOISES BABY NOISES CRYING CRYING CRYING *

 

[Reborn]

* BABY NOISES BABY NOISES CRYING CRYING CRYING *

Am I suppose to take that as an insult?