Who is stronger?


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Sry. Then you shouldn't have seriously claimed that Akainu losing part of his ear is in any way a nerf.

- Unlike Shanks Kuzan can do this.


As for Akainu vs Kizaru. It's so blatantly obvious that Akainu is superior to Kizaru in every way from power and status that it's hardly interesting to debate over it.
Damaged ear = reduced sense of hearing, it is obviously a nerf.

There is nothing blatantly obvious that puts Akainu over Kizaru.
From DF power, most people agree that Kizaru has generally stronger DF than Akainu's magma.
Status doesn't really mean shit because Akainu used to be an Admiral too like Kizaru. If anything, admiral Akainu was stronger than Fleet Admiral Akainu, because Admiral Akainu's ear was still not damaged.
 
nah he is right , he gave a great arguments to support my agenda, it went from 0.1 % of success to 60 percent :feelscryingman:
Haha he didn't really give a single one bro.
I would entertain a debate if there's just a single thing that can be argued for in Kizaru's favour but there ain't. He's put below Akainu in everything. Even King made one statement that entertained the King > Kaido argument.
 

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This makes no sense whatsoever. Both the Admirals and the Gorosei are part of the WG. Both have their respective titles. Whether the Gorosei are strong won't disprove those titles unless Oda specifically states so.

Every single individual in the WG including the Gorosei fall below the Admirals in strength, only Imu isn't part of it.

So if the Gorosei are supposed to be stronger then Oda has to prove it by making Saturn fight Luffy while Kizaru fights the weaker oponnent Zoro.
And, what makes you think Oda will make zoro fight Saturn here if he turns out to be strong.

It's gonna be luffy.
 
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