Character Discussion Zoro's lineage is revealed by Oda

Is Zoro a real/true/direct/main Shimotsuki?


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Redon corrected himself, the tree is 100% written by Oda
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION!!

Zoro's family tree question is written 100% by Eiichiro Oda, not a reader's idea or anything. My mistake translating the SBS quickly this morning, sorry for the confusion

Eiichiro Oda says that he's been getting a lot of questions about Zoro's lineage, and since he's probably not going to touch on that topic anymore for the rest of the series, he's decided to reveal it in full on this SBS.

Everything else is correct. Sorry for the error again
 
do you not know what “direct descendant” means?

It means if you go straight up Zoros family tree you hit Ryuma.
And what is distand descendant according to you?

It mean same, someone who is part of the tree yet belong to another family aka Roronoa.

stop pushing agenda and follow the story lol.
 
He's 100 percent a direct descendant. His Great Grandmother is the sister of the man who looks exactly like Ryuma, as does Zoro.
Lol I don't know where you went at school. But Zoro has like 25% of Shimotsuki blood. His dad was half.
And it's always patriarchal so Roronoa matters the most at least in Asian countries.
That's why Oda didn't bother to reveal it in the manga since it has no impact.
 
Oda himself agree otherwise Zoro would be shimotsuki instead of roronoa.
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direct descendant that was kuina shimotsuki.

distand descedant is Roronoa Zoro.
You're joking right? Zoro took the Roronoa Surname, because that's the tradition. The child takes the fathers Surname, not the mother.

Looks like Ace isnt a direct descendant to Roger, because he went by Portgas....
 
Zoro is a Roronoa and whatever his mover mother side family name is.

saying Zoro is a Roronoa or his three family name descendant is more correct.
No it's not

Zoro's dad was half Shimotsuki and half Roronoa.

He was given the name Roronoa because Zoro's grandfather was a Roronoa. But Zoro's dad possessing the surname Roronoa does not change his DNA, which is 50% Roronoa and 50% Shimotsuki. Zoro is as much a Shimotsuki as he is a Roronoa.

And for the record, we don't know whether Zoro is a direct descendant of Ryuuma. Direct descendant means Ryuuma must be Zoro's great great etc... Grandfather. But what if Ryuuma had a sibling and is actually Zoro's great great etc... Uncle? We don't actually know as far as I'm aware. Not that it means much, either way Ryuuma is a distant relative to Zoro
 
Lol I don't know where you went at school. But Zoro has like 25% of Shimotsuki blood. His dad was half.
And it's always patriarchal so Roronoa matters the most at least in Asian countries.
That's why Oda didn't bother to reveal it in the manga since it has no impact.
This, we can even resume it to Zoro arent a 100 percent shimotsuki so trying to us it for agenda doesnt matter once Oda never bothered to reveal backstory only why Zoro wanted to be WSS.
 
Lol I don't know where you went at school. But Zoro has like 25% of Shimotsuki blood. His dad was half.
And it's always patriarchal so Roronoa matters the most at least in Asian countries.
That's why Oda didn't bother to reveal it in the manga since it has no impact.
A school way better than yours apparently, because being a direct descendant has nothing to do with percentages... Lmao...
 
How is it that Oden was using Enma like a tooth pick at age 4?? Grown ass men can't hold the sword but a 4yo can weild it tf.
My explanation for it is Enma's very nature.

Enma was gifted to Oden, and Oden carried it since he was a kid. Since Enma wasn't used to anyone else, it could only suck whatever it could from kid Oden and was satisfied by it.

As Oden grew stronger, Enma sucked out as much haki from Oden as Oden could supply it. Meaning, at any given timeframe, the amount of haki that it expects from anyone wielding it, would be the haki that the Oden of that timeframe was supplying it.

Ultimately, what Enma got used to, was peak Oden tier armament and conqueror's haki.
To be noted is that Oden didn't even know about advanced conqueror's haki until Roger/WB clash happened, meaning that the Enma of timeframes prior to that also never tasted conqueror's haki........and was still tamed by Oden. Giving credence to my theory, since conqueror's haki is a requirement to tame current Enma, but that clearly wasn't the case in the past.

Enma by it's nature is a greedy sword, hungry for haki.
Enma at the current timeframe could no longer be satisfied by any less haki than what peak Oden could supply it. Simply because it got used to this level of haki.

So the Enma that we are familiar with, attempts to suck out Oden level armament and conqueror's haki. Which was why even someone strong like Scabbards couldn't use it.

Zoro finally truly tamed Enma in chapter 1033.
There he says "So Oden was giving you this much haki easily", awakens advanced conqueror's haki, and tames Enma.

This I take as narrative proof for my theory.
Enma wants prime Oden level haki, it won't be tamed by anyone incapable of supplying it with that much haki.
 
This, we can even resume it to Zoro arent a 100 percent shimotsuki so trying to us it for agenda doesnt matter once Oda never bothered to reveal backstory only why Zoro wanted to be WSS.
So let me guess, Sanji fans and Luffy fans are trying to dehype Zoro because their powers come from modification, df, others things ? :kobeha:

We all know Zoro is Ryuma 2.0, why people are even shocked ? Lmao this weak attempt :milaugh:
 

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My explanation for it is Enma's very nature.

Enma was gifted to Oden, and Oden carried it since he was a kid. Since Enma wasn't used to anyone else, it could only suck whatever it could from kid Oden and was satisfied by it.

As Oden grew stronger, Enma sucked out as much haki from Oden as Oden could supply it. Meaning, at any given timeframe, the amount of haki that it expects from anyone wielding it, would be the haki that the Oden of that timeframe was supplying it.

Ultimately, what Enma got used to, was peak Oden tier armament and conqueror's haki.
To be noted is that Oden didn't even know about advanced conqueror's haki until Roger/WB clash happened, meaning that the Enma of timeframes prior to that also never tasted conqueror's haki........and was still tamed by it. Giving credence to my theory, since conqueror's haki is a requirement to tame current Enma.

Enma by it's nature is a greedy sword, hungry for haki.
Enma at the current timeframe could no longer be satisfied by any less haki than what peak Oden could supply it. Simply because it got used to this level of haki.

So the Enma that we are familiar with, attempts to suck out Oden level armament and conqueror's haki. Which was why even someone strong like Scabbards couldn't use it.

Zoro finally truly tamed Enma in chapter 1033.
There he says "So Oden was giving you this much haki easily", awakens advanced conqueror's haki, and tames Enma.

This I take as narrative proof for my theory.
Enma wants prime Oden level haki, it won't be tamed by anyone incapable of supplying it with that much haki.
Yup. What we said all along.
Enmas current requirement is prime oden level
 
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