Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1077 Spoilers Discussion

[MarineHQ]

So far the Seraphim are garbage tier fighters. Will they ever be more than punching bags ?

 

[Embers Kaios]

Queen is definitely more durable than King outside of King’s Lunarian gimmick

Without flames, I’d reckon King is in between Cracker and Katakuri

 

[JoNdule]

Also, @sanjikun we don't even know how they were wiped out. They could have been poisoned or gassed for all we know.

The Void Century has technology that far surpasses the modern era. The same could be assumed for weaponry.

They're not really invincible
They can't even fight properly without flames on They're backs/body or else they get wiped out or beaten easily

 

[CbShadow]

LMFAOOOOO are you the guy that said King>>>Kaido in strength?

I'm talking about durability and defensive.

King power to deal with damage is beyond dragons (Kaido) and dinosaurs (Queen).

 

[ConquistadoR]

Yeah that's a wild take lol. Oda doesn't give PU's for no reason. It played into the fight's outcome.

Without CoC, Zoro can't beat King before Enma sucks the life out of him.
It doesn't mean he needs CoC to beat King.

 

[HA001]

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Like seriously zoro could have throw 100 bird dances acoc coated on kaido he stil would not have beat him. Or even get him to half this lack a serious punch .

100 acoc bird dance and kaido is dead.
And that's endurance you are talking about dumbass.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

He has no gimmick, he is solid and beefy the whole time

Just like Sasaki. :cheers:

 

[Embers Kaios]

So far the Seraphim are garbage tier fighters. Will they ever be more than punching bags ?

No damage
They also defeated franky and Usopp neg diff

 

[BillSlipton]

He has no gimmick, he is solid and beefy the whole time

Lmao king can't even cut his ass cheek with multiple chances. In the canon.

Knocked out a yonko and cracked her skull

Took down luffy neg diff with plagues

Negged luffys attack while Queen was in base

Captured zolo and luffy before the rooftop

And has weapon tech better than vegapunks

I could keep going but I'll leave it at that. I'm just surprised he was actually able to push sanji to mid diff before the power up

 

[CbShadow]

Queen is definitely more durable than King outside of King’s Lunarian gimmick

Without flames, I’d reckon King is in between Cracker and Katakuri

None flame mode King uses his body to clash with Zoro's sword.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Point still stands admiral stans don't need to hype such a small feat like beating king

Is negging King a small feat when the guy who beat Kaido can’t do the same without exploiting a gimmick with help from CP-0? Lol

 

[Embers Kaios]

Is negging King a small feat when the guy who beat Kaido can’t do the same without exploiting a gimmick with help from CP-0? Lol

Neither can Zoro
S-Hawk took 0% damage and Zoro had help…….lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Without CoC, Zoro can't beat King before Enma sucks the life out of him.
It doesn't mean he needs CoC to beat King.

TbF he very much does. Zoro didn't have the AP to take King down prior to CoC and King only played defensively after taking two CoC attacks to the face.

 

[Albino 👑]

Queen with lasers can damage flames on king
We see lasers is a problem for seraphims

I guess maybe but until we actually see it im personally going to go with both able to hurt flame on lunarian that arent specific hax
Like certain devil fruit abilities and poison and shit like that

 

[JoNdule]

Isn't King currently imprisoned now?

I know he was attacked by Aramaki, I'm assuming that King is still being kept as a prisoner in Wano.

No he's gone to Impel Down
He's irrelevant combat and storywise.. his race isn't

 

[ConquistadoR]

TbF he very much does. Zoro didn't have the AP to take King down prior to CoC and King only played defensively after taking two CoC attacks to the face.

Since the Flame On ability is just Invulnerability, there is no AP limit Zoro has to surpass to beat him.

He just needed to attack when Flames are off, all those attacks which worked on Kaidou (Tatsumaki, Shishishi Sonson, Hiryu Kaen) will affect King.

 

[Iaarm]

After this chapter I rate King as equal to Bartomoleo.
Their powers are very similar. Both have invincible durability as long as their barrier/flame is on

 

[nik87]

Now you're just lying. Nowhere was it required only because they went and did it. Yes and Zoro shattered every bone in his body and vomitted blood.

Portrayal is incomparable. 3 top tiers stopping 1 top tier compared to one one top tier stopping 2 top tiers.
And unlike Admirals, despite everything Zoro bested WSC in CQC and slashed his chest open.
No heart attacks required to land a free hit.

He has flame dragons that are like Magma but they are not magma.

It is magma. Luffy who shrugs off Borobreaths like nothing couldnt even touch Kaido's version of King's attacks.
King can kill any top tier that is below Kaido when it comes to defense. Easily. Jackpot or magma dragons, pick one.

Akainu is Magma itself. King uses flames that are like magma. Had King used Magma then guess what Zoro would've said it.

You got defensive out of nowhere lol. Jackpot can't threaten any Admiral bar Fujitora for starters because they're logias.

You're making rookie mistakes nik

It can threaten both Fujitora and GB and possibly Aokiji as well due to being natural harm.
Akainu didnt burn him with haki but with magma. So King will do the same.
There is no need for defense when King's defense is #1 in the world.

His offense aint too shabby either. King has no need to switch to speed mode, not everyone is Zoro with unbreakable defense.
Only when offense doesnt work, he can try speed. And even then, his toughness is outta this world and not everyone has Zoro's offense.
There are no rookie mistakes here, this is strictly factual. Thinking King cant take out top tiers is silly. It's top teirs who cant take King out.

 

[Ar1sE1998]

when will raw come out?

Today*

 

[Albino 👑]

Is negging King a small feat when the guy who beat Kaido can’t do the same without exploiting a gimmick with help from CP-0? Lol

Lee lets just agree to say the admirals all stomp king lol