Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1077 Spoilers Discussion

[Aknolagon]

seen a bit of discussion specifically on lunarians and why they are extinct if their durability is this impressive
on average its prob not this special
willing to believe more specifically, its king's that is .


Hence why he was the sole survivor and the subject of experimentation for the Wg .
iirc kaido mentioned the sequence of endurance test they ringed him through as a kid .
good example
oden , momo , big mom have tougher bodies than average humans .



dont doubt lunarians are tough , but king particularly seems tougher even amonst his folks. No one experiments/makes clones with average joe's, you pick the exceptional ones.

Like you said, not all Lunarians were fighters or share the same expériences, fighting abilities, physical stats with King.
He is probably the strongest among them.

So it's normal if weaker or average lunarian got wiped up by any decents fighters.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Dude King with flame on dodge zoro attacks before acoc ...

Yeah, coz he was charging at Zoro with flame attacks. You don't have to stop avoiding attacks just because you don't get hurt. You do that for an uninterrupted offense too. There is a reason why we were specifically given a scene of Zoro mocking King for blocking his attacks after King pointed out that Zoro noticed his weakness i.e., to tell us King's defense doesn't work now, which is what frustrated King into facing Zoro instead of just outlasting him like he was doing before Zoro's CoC.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

King > kata
Is like saying zoro > Luffy
Which is wrong

If King was above kata, he'd fight Luffy or Kid or law not Zoro.
He will have CoC + awakening or adhaki, not rely on genetics only

Lmao what importance you give Kata bro, he's another commander of the bunch.

Fighting Luffy is not an argument , otherwise we would all be seeing Hody being praised lmao.

 

[Konstantis]

No
King dura>kaido
As stated by king
We been saying this but they called zoro fans dumb

Zolo fans are dumb, Luffy deal no damage with g4 without coc

 

[sanjikun]

Without AdCoC, King is unbeatable.

We're not even sure GB has even basic CoC.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I do hope we find out why the lunarians went near extinct. Of course it’s possible oda didn’t think that far when designing them.

prob going to give us some ancient weapon explanation

 

[ConquistadoR]

The moment you quote Nik is when your credibility falls lol.

@nik87 was right about Lunarians all along.
He made threads about it even but was mocked by ppl, myself included.
You gotta give props where its due.

Zoro needed CoC to overcome King, these attacks are literally what pressures Zoro and makes him not want to confront Zoro in CQC flame mode or not.

He never needed it TACy.
The fight was never about overcoming Lunarian defense, it was about exploiting Flame Off.

There are still zero panels of Flame.On Lunarians being injured after Zoro vs King, GB vs King, Teach vs S Hawk and Egghead. Theyre just downright invincible in Flame.On.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Current zoro is definitely way stronger than he was at the start of the king fight even without conquerors

Umm based on??

 

[JoNdule]

You guys still arguing about a guy who got neg diff 2v1 vs green bull.

Imagine hyping a dude that an admiral washed

King with Queen & gifters got low diffed

Where was "adcoc needed" "unbeatable king"

 

[Raughtale]

It is not about race. Mechanism is the same. Scales or Lunarian will offer you exterior toughness. Internal organs are internal. And internal destruction mechanism to bypass external defense. Like how red roc worked.

Then we are back at the start, you are assuming the defense is only external but that hasn't been confirmed (it could be the case).

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Gotta love how Albino, sanjikin, noodle, etc. are searching what to say because they are in shock

Ndule is back?

How there wasn't a party?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Like you said, not all Lunarians were fighters or share the same expériences, fighting abilities, physical stats with King.
He is probably the strongest among them.

So it's normal if weaker or average lunarian got wiped up by any decents fighters.

most likely the case .

 

[ConquistadoR]

could be that
cant figure out why would king resort to blocking zoro's attacks then in that fight if that were simply the case.


surely he would know in that state no matter what , he isnt getting hurt.

The way i see it, he was simply scared since the ruse was out.

 

[Extravlad]

Imagine hyping a dude that an admiral washed

King with Queen & gifters got low diffed

Where was "adcoc needed" "unbeatable king"

Well yea Aramaki is > Big Mom

 

[sanjikun]

Good point, which admiral did Katakuri fight again?

Easily scaling mate. Skysplitter/ACoC Luffy > Greenbull.

So FS Luffy was only 1-2 powerups from beating Greenbull.

 

[Konstantis]

WCI Luffy can take on King.


Boy oh boy. Died quickly than Ace after being rescued.

He can. How come from one attack didn't work to can't beat?

 

[Monster Luffy]

So let me get this straight. As long as flame is ON, Lunarian is invincible and adCoC is required to beat Lunarian right? Guess the Lunarian was extinct by some highly proficient CoC users.

Oh yeah, it is also possible that they switched OFF the fire mode to let their race extinguished.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Ndule is back?

How there wasn't a party?

He’s read no mi

 

[nik87]

Luffy knows about Kaido's durability and acquires a specific ability --->
Kaido didn't lose or get low diffed

Katakuri's secret is known---> doesn't lose to Boundman and tanks 3 moves nor shortly after
Lasts hours and still matches fs g4 in the end.

When awakened law and kid bypass BM durability---> she tanks even more offscreen and on screen
Doesn't lose badly

When it comes to King: loses in 3 moves *low diff to EnOu zoro

Everyone is one-shot when facing Zoro because he aint hitting them with healing punches.

 

[JoNdule]

The point is there is nothing invincible in front of AdCoC. Without AdCoC, King is unbeatable.

Indeed
That's why Zoro said "we need adcoc to win"
That's why GB used adcoc to beat King like a toddler