General & Others Who is the most overrated character in OP?
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We saw them but MF isn't a clear way to powerscale anyone. Nobody showed everything to their fullest; or at least, it certainly isn't clear who did and didn't go all out. We saw what Jozu did, but was that all he could do? You see what I'm getting at? Until Luffy actually fought and defeated Katakuri it was very hard to ground and reasonably understand the YC levels.
So as i was saying before, when people were throwing these terms around, it meant different things to everyone, so communicating powerscaling ideas is difficult. I'm not excusing the idiots who think Sanji's stronger than x or y, but I am explaining why there's been so much confusion until fairly recently about how strong some characters are
Also, Vergo isn't fucking relevant - why don't people understand? Neither Vergo nor Sanji went all out, the fight was inconclusive AND IT WAS 5 FUCKING ARCS AGO! That's like using Luffy vs Magellan and then saying "yeah but Luffy is shit" when you're reading the Zou arc. It's total bollocks and makes no sense.
So as i was saying before, when people were throwing these terms around, it meant different things to everyone, so communicating powerscaling ideas is difficult. I'm not excusing the idiots who think Sanji's stronger than x or y, but I am explaining why there's been so much confusion until fairly recently about how strong some characters are
Also, Vergo isn't fucking relevant - why don't people understand? Neither Vergo nor Sanji went all out, the fight was inconclusive AND IT WAS 5 FUCKING ARCS AGO! That's like using Luffy vs Magellan and then saying "yeah but Luffy is shit" when you're reading the Zou arc. It's total bollocks and makes no sense.
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Why is no one surprised for the fact the most overrated character in all of One piece drum rolls :
After the Oden flashback and stalemate fight against big mom its clear he is not worth the hype oda has created . Remember the chapter 795 when kaido fell from the sky akin , as chapter shows more of his God complexity of his character is waning .
One on One always bets on kaido yet Marine s were able to capture him many times and Kaido has no problem playing dirty by planting spy in oden's side .
Nothing is special about Kaido . He is all hype !! I like @HA001 pointing hole that Kaido is only built on hype and fear of his enemies i think he has a point .
After the Oden flashback and stalemate fight against big mom its clear he is not worth the hype oda has created . Remember the chapter 795 when kaido fell from the sky akin , as chapter shows more of his God complexity of his character is waning .
One on One always bets on kaido yet Marine s were able to capture him many times and Kaido has no problem playing dirty by planting spy in oden's side .
Nothing is special about Kaido . He is all hype !! I like @HA001 pointing hole that Kaido is only built on hype and fear of his enemies i think he has a point .
well Luffy developed but Sanji really didnt because the most time he did nothing not in dressrosa or WCI
so Sanji didnt got really stronger
Yes and Sanji did use DJ so he did attack him with his special ability while Vergo didnt even use full body haki or bamboo stick
Did Vergo use Bamboo stick or full body haki ? no
Did Sanji use DJ ? yes
Did Vergo crack his leg ? yes
Did Sanji said it would be bad if it would contuine ? yes (even though Vergo didnt go all out)
Did Zoro own Pica who is on his level ? yes
Did Law one shot Vergo ? yes
Conclusion Sanji is trash
so Sanji didnt got really stronger
Yes and Sanji did use DJ so he did attack him with his special ability while Vergo didnt even use full body haki or bamboo stick
Did Vergo use Bamboo stick or full body haki ? no
Did Sanji use DJ ? yes
Did Vergo crack his leg ? yes
Did Sanji said it would be bad if it would contuine ? yes (even though Vergo didnt go all out)
Did Zoro own Pica who is on his level ? yes
Did Law one shot Vergo ? yes
Conclusion Sanji is trash
That´s a moot point. Jozu potentially not showing everything makes it even more obvious Sanji was not on their level, and whatever he did show was already enough.
You are discussing the terms when my post was obviously focusing on Sanji and not being on the level of these guys.
Y3C just means at the level of a third commander, which either Vista or Jozu were. Now tell me how Sanji can clash with top tiers a few times and not immediately get destroyed by them post-TS?
No, that´s not the same. Time is irrelevant when in-between the characters did not change, the illusion that they get stronger island by island without getting challenged whatsoever is ridiculous.
Luffy after Magellan, gained near poison immunity and had a 2 year training span in-between.
You are discussing the terms when my post was obviously focusing on Sanji and not being on the level of these guys.
Y3C just means at the level of a third commander, which either Vista or Jozu were. Now tell me how Sanji can clash with top tiers a few times and not immediately get destroyed by them post-TS?
No, that´s not the same. Time is irrelevant when in-between the characters did not change, the illusion that they get stronger island by island without getting challenged whatsoever is ridiculous.
Luffy after Magellan, gained near poison immunity and had a 2 year training span in-between.
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There is no relationship between the two
When the fanbase has no idea what a YC3 can really do, and calls somebody YC3, is that a fair assessment? Obviously not. This is my point. You're referring to times when we didnt truly know, in any way shape or form, the kind of powerscaling YC3s require. All we had to go off was Jack being oneshot by Zunisha with implied > Doffy hype and what we saw of Jozu or Vista in MF, which was negligible.
I am literally fucking agreeing with you with the added caveat of being open minded about the whole thing. It's applicable not only to Sanji powerscaling, but all powerscaling, period. I never said jack shit about Sanji being above YC3, where the fuck did you get that idea from? Yes, people overrated Sanji because YC whatever, but this doesn't mean Sanji is the most overrated character, not by a longshot when we're seeing people - even now, saying Zoro can 1v1 Kaido and shit.
It's almost like you're not even reading my posts dude. Come on, you're better than that. But if you want an example, he did technically clash with Linlin, but hey, this isn't a fucking Sanji thread.
The characters constantly change - else you're not reading the same Manga as I am. Heck, Sanji underwent massive change in WCI. The Sanji of today is unrecognisable from the Sanji 5 arcs back. Power creep also hasn't even been mentioned yet.
But yes, exactly, you're starting to get my point. Luffy 5 arcs after fighting Magellan was obviously >>>>>>>>>>>> ID Luffy. Sanji now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PH Sanji. It's fucking obvious. It's literally the most retarded thing to say he isn't - like, to the level where it rivals those anti-Covid 19 protesters.
When the fanbase has no idea what a YC3 can really do, and calls somebody YC3, is that a fair assessment? Obviously not. This is my point. You're referring to times when we didnt truly know, in any way shape or form, the kind of powerscaling YC3s require. All we had to go off was Jack being oneshot by Zunisha with implied > Doffy hype and what we saw of Jozu or Vista in MF, which was negligible.
I am literally fucking agreeing with you with the added caveat of being open minded about the whole thing. It's applicable not only to Sanji powerscaling, but all powerscaling, period. I never said jack shit about Sanji being above YC3, where the fuck did you get that idea from? Yes, people overrated Sanji because YC whatever, but this doesn't mean Sanji is the most overrated character, not by a longshot when we're seeing people - even now, saying Zoro can 1v1 Kaido and shit.
It's almost like you're not even reading my posts dude. Come on, you're better than that. But if you want an example, he did technically clash with Linlin, but hey, this isn't a fucking Sanji thread.
The characters constantly change - else you're not reading the same Manga as I am. Heck, Sanji underwent massive change in WCI. The Sanji of today is unrecognisable from the Sanji 5 arcs back. Power creep also hasn't even been mentioned yet.
But yes, exactly, you're starting to get my point. Luffy 5 arcs after fighting Magellan was obviously >>>>>>>>>>>> ID Luffy. Sanji now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PH Sanji. It's fucking obvious. It's literally the most retarded thing to say he isn't - like, to the level where it rivals those anti-Covid 19 protesters.
