Break Week Queen and Jack being worth billion is ridiculous

#83
Why do people keep ignoring character's feats and then say they have none? Jack had a ship full of fodder and challenged Fujitora, Turu, and Sengoku! He survived and even sank ships! King was FODDERIZED by an admiral alongside Queen.
Luffy challenged the entire Navy HQ, Ennies Lobby and Impel Down. His bounty should have been 10 billion by that logic.
 
#86
Neither of them displayed strong haki, let alone advanced haki. Looking in hindsight, what´s even the point of getting a zoan if it isn´t a mythical zoan? you are better off getting a useful paramecia tbh, enhanced endurance isn´t worth shit when you are facing a strong haki user.
dude if you switch WB crew to Kaidou crew when they fought at Marineford , Queen and Jack can easily destroy whole marine’s force with at least Vice admiral lvl except Garp , even with all of 3 K Q J can stand against 2 of 3 Admirals based on what Macro showed.
 
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#87
I still don't see where it's proven that King's haki is anything special and that he deserves 1bil
Can you read? I´M LITERALLY AGREEING WITH YOU.

The whole point of this thread was literally to talk about this: KING AND QUEEN DON´T DESERVE BILLION BOUNTIES.
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dude if you switch WB crew to Kaidou crew when they fought at Marineford , Queen and Jack can easily destroy whole marine’s force with at least Vice admiral lvl except Garp , even with all of 3 K Q J can stand against 2 of 3 Admirals based on what Macro showed.
Lol, greenbull negged both of them + claiming that jack can handle an admiral is insane.
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You forgot King then.

P.S: Zoroturd detected.
P.S2: strong Haki or ancient Zoan are the same lmao. Both enhance power and defense. Do you even understand the basic logic behind these powers?
Haki>>>>>>>>>> zoan unless mythical zoan.
 
#88
It's not just about Haki. It's about other things as well.
Kid for example had a higher bounty than Luffy, not only because he was strong but also because he attacked and killed civilians.
King and Queen both have epithets of Wildfire & plague. Im sure they didn't get that for no reason.

Them being strong + crazy other shit they did = 1B+ bounty
 
#89
Look at Zoro's and Sanji's bounty after they defeated King and Queen. Their bounty is 279-288 million less than King and Queen which shows how inflated their bounty was.

So if someone defeated Jack, their bounty will be around 715 million taking away this inflation. Now I see why Oda put him with Perospero. Both were defeated by a similar character and both could overpower King's Mink without their sulong.

Jack is Perospero overall level. No haki, no mastery over his hybrid form, no named attacks and the reason Tobbi Roppo wanted to aim for an All Star spot.. Jack was not worthy, he indeed is tough, but not on the level of Cracker.
 
#91
Look at Zoro's and Sanji's bounty after they defeated King and Queen. Their bounty is 279-288 million less than King and Queen which shows how inflated their bounty was.

So if someone defeated Jack, their bounty will be around 715 million taking away this inflation. Now I see why Oda put him with Perospero. Both were defeated by a similar character and both could overpower King's Mink without their sulong.

Jack is Perospero overall level. No haki, no mastery over his hybrid form, no named attacks and the reason Tobbi Roppo wanted to aim for an All Star spot.. Jack was not worthy, he indeed is tough, but not on the level of Cracker.
Perosperos bounty is also inflated? Katakuris bounty also inflated.

And yeah, that’s why heavily nerfed Jack and fresh Perospero fought the same enemy. Because they’re equal.
 
#93
Well you can get high Bounties in Op while not beeing that strong. The longer you are able to cause damage and kill civilians on different Islands the higher your Bounty gets. Luffy/Zoro etc. basically only got their Bounties when defeating Enemies most of the Time. Zoro having such a high Bounty after just his 4th increase cause of his 4th big known Fight to the Marines

-Whiskey Peak Incident/Alabasta/Mr 1 60B
-Ennies Lobby/Kaku 120B
-Dressrosa/Pica 320B
-Wano Kuni/King 1.111B

This is impressive as hell.
 
#94
Perosperos bounty is also inflated? Katakuris bounty also inflated.

And yeah, that’s why heavily nerfed Jack and fresh Perospero fought the same enemy. Because they’re equal.

All Stars are like Kidd, their bounty shows their power and how dangerous they are for killiong and destroying towns. Also their inflation of being with the Emperor for many years.

While Luffy had a much bigger bounty than Katakuri, his bounty shows that he hasnt demostrated huge feats as King, yet they are still relative. Look at Cracker, they didnt even knew his real face. Big Mom pirates are mostly already established, after all it is said that Whitebeard and Big Mom were pirates from the old Gen while Shanks and Kaido are more new.... Kaido was a rockie at Rocks...

But yeah, they should have an extra bounty due Big Mom. Hard to say how much.
 
#95
All Stars are like Kidd, their bounty shows their power and how dangerous they are for killiong and destroying towns. Also their inflation of being with the Emperor for many years.

While Luffy had a much bigger bounty than Katakuri, his bounty shows that he hasnt demostrated huge feats as King, yet they are still relative. Look at Cracker, they didnt even knew his real face. Big Mom pirates are mostly already established, after all it is said that Whitebeard and Big Mom were pirates from the old Gen while Shanks and Kaido are more new.... Kaido was a rockie at Rocks...

But yeah, they should have an extra bounty due Big Mom. Hard to say how much.
Luffys bounty was because of Katakuri + Owning a fleet that rivals an emperors.

BMP are just as inflated as the beast pirates bounties.
 
#96
Well you can get high Bounties in Op while not beeing that strong. The longer you are able to cause damage and kill civilians on different Islands the higher your Bounty gets. Luffy/Zoro etc. basically only got their Bounties when defeating Enemies most of the Time. Zoro having such a high Bounty after just his 4th increase cause of his 4th big known Fight to the Marines

-Whiskey Peak Incident/Alabasta/Mr 1 60B
-Ennies Lobby/Kaku 120B
-Dressrosa/Pica 320B
-Wano Kuni/King 1.111B

This is impressive as hell.
There still must be a limit to how high your bounty can get for killing civilians. I mean, look at Jack, destroyed Zou with an army, if he does that once again at Egghead, what will be the difference? Nothing new, nothing will show he got more dangerous or stronger if he keeps doing the same feats.

An another example is if we have 5 characters that have 4000 doriki, if Sanji defeat 1 he gets a bounty that demostrates that, but if he defeat another and then another, why should his bounty get higher if he is just beating characters with the same power?

For that reason is that I think there is a limit to how high his bounty can go if he does the same feat in the same way.
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Luffys bounty was because of Katakuri + Owning a fleet that rivals an emperors.

BMP are just as inflated as the beast pirates bounties.
That is what Morgans said, and at the end is just rumors. His feats at WCI has nothing to do with his fleet, so why mix them? Just we know that Luffy wasnt really an Emperor to be called the 5th Emperor.

It was just Morgans hyping him.
 
#99
Sanjis Ifrit Jambe is probably equal to Katakuris Chikara Mochi since it is second lvl armament haki and exoskeleton should have Gear 4 lvl power or close power. This kind of move was able to take down Queen so I think he deserves his bounty but i think Jack is full of shit.
Sanji far surpassed anything kata has shown.

Sanjis physically hitting wayyyyy harder than wci g4 by feats alone.

But the heat of the attack is what causes the main damage. It's a 2 part attack. The fire is even more devastating than the physical aspect.
 
Well you can get high Bounties in Op while not beeing that strong. The longer you are able to cause damage and kill civilians on different Islands the higher your Bounty gets. Luffy/Zoro etc. basically only got their Bounties when defeating Enemies most of the Time. Zoro having such a high Bounty after just his 4th increase cause of his 4th big known Fight to the Marines

-Whiskey Peak Incident/Alabasta/Mr 1 60B
-Ennies Lobby/Kaku 120B
-Dressrosa/Pica 320B
-Wano Kuni/King 1.111B

This is impressive as hell.
Zoro's bounty is over 1 trillion berry? :risiup:

My man. :cheers:
 
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