Character Discussion Why Kid's loss is genuinely infuriating and Shanks is a trash, unrealistic utopia character created by the delusional daydreams of a weakling nerd

#21
It's not about being a nice pacifist, but about not abusing your power over others and using it with purpose.

Shanks is so powerful that Higuma breaking a glass on him is the equivalent of a small dog barking at you, you wouldn't get pissed and kick a small dog barking at you because it poses no threat.
Yet he has Roo murder Higuma's men the moment they show they would kidnap and kill a helpless little kid.

Similarly Shanks went from chill to murder mode the moment Kidd showed he would mercilessly kill people far weaker than him without a second thought, with a lot of damage to Elbaf villagers as well probably.

Hard working or not, Kid is still fundamentally a morally dubious character.

Shanks is like a martial artist master who will fight and defend people when the situation calls for it but knows restraint is important, Kid is a black belt who would kick children for showing up at the dojo.
Nope

Shanks is like a self inserted character who has to be good guy
Oda had to make his fleets all of a sudden the weakest fleet and make Kid seem like super evil for attacking a Yonko army lol

Simply retarded
 
#22
Nope

Shanks is like a self inserted character who has to be good guy
Oda had to make his fleets all of a sudden the weakest fleet and make Kid seem like super evil for attacking a Yonko army lol

Simply retarded
The main character is an impossibly naive, innocent, yet strong guy who helps everyone selflessly.

We literally follow a band of pirates who free countries and make friends with everyone.

The world is governed by slave owning aristocrats with absolute authority.

One of the previous emperors made an entire crew of oprhans and outcasts to form a big family.

One Piece is a series of extremes with incredibly exaggerated depictions of both good and evil and Shanks' kindness just follows suit.
 
#23
The main character is an impossibly naive, innocent, yet strong guy who helps everyone selflessly.

We literally follow a band of pirates who free countries and make friends with everyone.

The world is governed by slave owning aristocrats with absolute authority.

One of the previous emperors made an entire crew of oprhans and outcasts to form a big family.

One Piece is a series of extremes with incredibly exaggerated depictions of both good and evil and Shanks' kindness just follows suit.
It's a a yonko army,
Why would Kid be in the wrong for attacking the fleet of a yonko and battling Yonko?

There's no excuse for weaklings in the sea,
If his fleets are weak, then it is Shanks own issue

Oda wanna paint Kid being super evil for this act so that he justifies Shanks winning in a lame fashion.

Shanks vs Kid is pure fanservice and nonsense
It has no real/deep narrative to why Shanks had to win except him being good guy
 
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#24
It's a a yonko army,
Why would Kid be in the wrong for attacking the fleet of a yonko and battling Yonko?

There's no excuse for weaklings in the sea,
If his fleets are weak, then it is Shanks own issue

Oda wanna paint Kid being super evil for this act so that he justifies Shanks winning in a lame fashion.

Shanks vs Kid is pyre fanservice and nonsense
It has no real/deep narrative to why Shanks had to win except him being good guy
Shit was so stupid. Funny how last arc when Kidd is on the “good guys” side, fans seemed to forget that he was even an evil pirate. He just acted more like an anti hero. And that is because he was coincidentally not portrayed in an evil light because he was to be Luffy’s ally.

Now the minute Oda is ready to have Kidd get stomped by the Gary Stu self insert saintly character, Kidd (no longer the MCs ally) is back to being portrayed as the “bad guy” lol. And in this case it’s dumb af, because I don’t even see how blasting some enemy ships down makes him evil. Kidd shouldn’t need to hold back because his enemies are fodder (which was only a cheap tool to wank Shanks. There was no reason to make Shanks fleet weak lol)
 
#26
Shit was so stupid. Funny how last arc when Kidd is on the “good guys” side, fans seemed to forget that he was even an evil pirate. He just acted more like an anti hero. And that is because he was coincidentally not portrayed in an evil light because he was to be Luffy’s ally.
This is exactly what everyone was complaining about with Kid in Wano. That he was completely neutered. That Oda was ignoring all that was actually interesting about Kid pre-skip and making him a Luffy cheerleader. He wasn’t even an “anti-hero”, he was just this boring tsundere loudmouth.

It should have been all you Kid fans who were complaining about Wano Kid, because the character was being utterly butchered.
 
#27
In school, Oda was a typical passive nerd weakling that hung out with other nerds that all got bullied by people with similar personalities to Eustass Kid (people that were actually tough, fearless and hard working)
:gokulaugh: Sugoi is acting like he has been very tough at school, a typical keyboard warrior. If you want a realistic story, why read a manga written for 15-year olds? Read something else.

Kidd has wasted enough panel time, good riddance.
 
#29
Kid is the realistic version of luffy , not everyone is as lucky as luffy to get Rayleigh as his haki master before entering New world. Not everyone is blessed with plot armour. Where luffy gets multiple turns even after loosing , Kidd didn't.

Kid barely uses haki , if he had even decent FS he could have Atleast given a mid diff fight to shanks.
Copers cope this is. This is how losers complain in real life. I am not wrong, world is wrong.
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Kidd only has a few more brain cells than Luffy, but not his plot armor when Luffy isn't around him.

What happened to Kidd and his crew is what should have happened to the Straw Hats if they weren't protected by so thick plot armor.
Karma =/= Plot armor. Nah, Kid didn't have more brain cells than Luffy. Luffy atleast try to learn from his losses. That is how he learnt haki.
 
#34
Lmao how is that Excuse , All I said was Kidd is a realistic version of luffy. luffy got thicc plot armour kidd doesn't what's wrong in that. unless you wanna cope with kidd has more plot armour than luffy.
There is no such thing as plot armor. It is a cope people like you use for self consolation. Basically how losers cry on successful person in real world. Luffy so called plot armor was his own karma and deeds.
'Realistic' kid wont even survive in new world let alone sailing the dangerous seas with the skills he has. So called realistic vision of losers wont apply for fictional world created by mangaka.
 
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#36
There is no such thing as plot armor. It is a cope people like you use for self consolation. Basically how losers cry on successful person in real world. Luffy so called plot armor was his own karma and deeds.
'Realistic' kid wont even survive in new world let alone sailing the dangerous seas with the skills he has. So called realistic vision of losers wont apply for fictional world created by mangaka.
Lmao y'all reading this, according to him no Plot armour exists.
:chopoff::chopoff::chopoff:
 
#40
Are people still complaining about Kidd's defeat that was predicted by everybody except delusional Kidd's fans? What fucking build up does Kidd have?
His defeat is normal and the one shot is absolutely logical considering his powerlevel. His crew is weak as fuck, what the fucking fuck were people expecting him to do against Shanks and his crew lol?
Move on, Kidd isn't an important character, just another side character like Tashigi, Smoothie, Edison, Koala, Kyros, Karasu, or you name it. He is a bum that has accomplished more than he was supposed to do already.
 
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