Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1081 Spoilers Discussion

Will Garp die at the end of this arc?

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Paperchampion23

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nik87 said:
I started to take all his statements too literally especially after "Luffy cant beat a strong guy like Kaido with a punch"...
If there is any doubt, there is no doubt. This scenario with Kuzan ending up the 10th is just another confirmation for it...
There will be a little story left after the treasure but I think only for the final biggest party in the world on Elbaf.

Everything else will be concluded before Raftel. I seriously doubt the WG war happening for at least 2 year with all secrets known...
The mystery has to remain until the very end so Raftel should come last. WG war will just give us some partial info and keep the mystery.
I dont think they will be goign back to FMI but who knows... If Raftel isnt in the New world, they might have to go through FMI again.

But as you said, it is more likely for it to be connnected to Mariejois due to location and the destruction happens during WG war.
Probably due an Ancient Weapon fired downwards, something powerful to tear through the Red Line all the way down to FMI.
Fishmen will likely be warned of this and Noah will be used for evacuation. Not sure how to tie it to Luffy being the one who destroys it...

Luffy usually doesnt need much to start a war with anyone, so finding OP first isnt really a must for him.
Capturing one of his friends is enough for him to go to war with them, we saw it in the Enies Lobby.
I suspect that Raftel is located right next to Crocus, beneath the Twin Capes.

There is already an X sign on top of it. It is submerged and thats why nobody can find it.
And Laboon hammering onto that spot could be another hint for it, other than hint for destruction fo Red Line.
The first part destroyed will be Mariejois/FMI spot and the 2nd part will be Twin Capes, probably during Luffy vs Blackbeard battle.
Gura no mi is fitting for the job...
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For sure, im just taking the path of least resistance when it comes to endgame logic.

I think having the full adventure while knocking off key players allows Oda to ensure the final war isnt too bloated (it absolutely still will be). I think allowing readers to know the mystery of One Piece or Void Century allows us to be invested in fighting the WG afterwards, but maybe as you say it all happens prior to LT (wherever it is).
 
Admiral Mou Bu

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MonsterKaido said:
Aokiji has to have better Haki than akainu. Otherwise it does not make sense
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Why do people underrate Ice so much?? Obviously its a whole different matter when we actually see Kuzan trying. If he plays around with the Ice and uses the most basic attacks against Top Tiers, you wonder it looks underwhelming?

It would literally be the same if Akainu held back his magma abilities all the time as well.
 
park_min young

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Seth said:
@Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @AkainuTheGrimReaper @SakazukiTheFist

What are your thoughts on Kuzan?

I'm conflicted.

I think I really don't want him to be a double agent which is probably the case. Shit sounds so boring.
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Admiral Mou Bu said:
For real, it would be so cool if Kuzan actually believes in Teach and wants to follow him.
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That defies everything Kuzan stands for lmao. Teach is a bonafide evil dude, Kuzan was always fighting for a good cause. He even hates Akainu’s extremist guts. Say what you want about predictable, not everything predictable is bad writing.
 
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Admiral Mou Bu said:
Why do people underrate Ice so much?? Obviously its a whole different matter when we actually see Kuzan trying. If he plays around with the Ice and uses the most basic attacks against Top Tiers, you wonder it looks underwhelming?

It would literally be the same if Akainu held back his magma abilities all the time as well.
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Btw the helice guy said that you can't escape it if he froze you down to the core, you can only break out of it if it's surface level:endthis:
 
Admiral Mou Bu

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Elder Lee Hung said:
Brilliant.

Blackbeard has always been an antithesis to Whitebeard, and Kuzan joining Teach’s crew almost makes him like an antithesis to Ace. I’ve seen people saying Kuzan is like Blackbeard’s Oden, but I don’t really see that. I see him as a dark Ace, with he and Ace even having opposing fruits.

I also really like this fight, Garp facing his old apprentice to save his new one, and hope Oda’s ADHD doesn’t prevent him from seeing this fight through on-panel.

Either way, Kuzan seems to finally not be living a morally conflicted life. I always saw Kuzan as not really liking the Government but being a Marine because he thought that was the best way to pursue his own justice. But now he actually seems like he’s found some purpose again with Teach, and that’s awesome. If he is a spy, that’s fine too. Lol

Kuzan being the only ex Admiral to officially become a pirate is great and I hope we get more from him next week.
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Kuzan killing his former mentor, showing his loyalty to Teach and making him the last opponent for Coby would be preak:cheers:
 
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