Character Discussion Why Kidd and Law were too easy for Shanks/BB

Did Blackbeard really low diffed Law ?

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DarkKingSlander

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#21
#21
nik87 said:
It wasnt off-screened, the fight ended when Blackbeard said Black Vortex and we literally saw that moment.
What followed was probably one smack on the neck like in Ace's case and that's it.
He may have been treated by one Gura punch instead but the moment Blackbeard negged Law's fruit, the fight was over.
Unlike Kidd, Law was treated with a sloppy opponent and had a chance to land a hit or two but as promised, both of them failed as soon as they had to fight in 1vs1, just like I promised they would fail.
Their fans simply thought they were Zoro or god forbid, stronger than Zoro... :risiup:
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Zoro? We are talking about captains, not subordinates. Zoro would have gotten the killer treatment.
 
Erkan12

Erkan12

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#25
People forget BB's Darkness logia is designed to get him hurt. So you can't make a damage comparison between BB and other top tiers.

For example, we didn't see BB covered in bandages yet, while we know Sengoku was covered in bandages after his battle with BB, and despite Sengoku being mythical zoan.

When you look at their bodies, BB looks more damaged than Sengoku (due to WB's also 2 previous attacks), but in reality Sengoku was more damaged and didn't heal fast via being zoan.

Which is why BB is special case due to his special body and Darkness logia, always consider him differently when it comes to damages, his damage limit is probably above other top tiers due to special body.

BB's thing is probably healing and stamina via not even needing a sleep, while Big Mom or Kaido has super tough durable bodies via DF and natural born powers. Big mom and Kaido can be scaled via the damages they took since their thing is not get damage, BB's stamina is higher as he doesn't need a sleep and has special body that allows him to have 2 DF powers, that special body gives him much more stamina than others.

The real comparison is, BB didn't even really use his Tremor DF to beat Law, compared to this:






No big waves due to Tremor DF, and island doesn't even look like damaged, even Ace damaged the island a lot.

So its low-diff as BB was holding back and toying. Shichibukai BB could actually mid-diff Law without Tremor DF.
 
Roo

Roo

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Erkan12 said:
People forget BB's Darkness logia is designed to get him hurt. So you can't make a damage comparison between BB and other top tiers.

For example, we didn't see BB covered in bandages yet, while we know Sengoku was covered in bandages after his battle with BB, and despite Sengoku being myhtical zoan.

When you look at their bodies, BB looks more damaged than Sengoku (due to WB's also 2 previous attacks), but in reality Sengoku was more damaged and didn't heal fast via being zoan.

Which is why BB is special case due to his special body and Darkness logia, always consider him differently when it comes to damages, his damage limit is probably above other top tiers due to special body.

BB's thing is probably healing and stamina via not even needing a sleep, while Big Mom or Kaido has super tough durable bodies via DF and natural born powers.

The real comparison is, BB didn't even really use his Tremor DF to beat Law, compared to this:






No big waves due to Tremor DF, and island doesn't even look like damaged, even Ace damaged the island a lot.

So its low-diff as BB was holding back and toying. Shichibukai BB could actually mid-diff Law without Tremor DF.
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We literally see him use the GGNM to take out Law and failed to even hurt fodder lmao
 
Erkan12

Erkan12

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#28
Roo said:
We literally see him use the GGNM to take out Law and failed to even hurt fodder lmao
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Thats vs. the entire crew and against Law's ship, not vs. Law.

Its a fact that BB didn't go all out with Tremor DF as he didn't create any big waves or didn't even destroy the island. BB was holding back.

While even Luffy goes all out vs. Lucci, and uses his Nika Awakening.

BB didn't even go all out, let alone awakening.
 
Erkan12

Erkan12

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#30
#30
Apollo said:
You have to have a really loose defnition of a low-diff to argue that BB low-diffed Law. Welkin already posted the panels, this fight is a solid mid-diff.
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If you only assume BB go all out, and he didn't.

Just because Kaido got hurt by Zolo, that doesn't mean Zolo can give mid-diff/low-diff to Kaido, its all because Kaido was holding back and toying with him, not going all out. Its the same, plus BB's Darkness power forces him to get damage, while Kaido's and Big mom's abilities are based on not get damage.
 
Apollo

Apollo

The Sol King
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#33
#33
Erkan12 said:
If you only assume BB go all out, and he didn't.

Just because Kaido got hurt by Zolo, that doesn't mean Zolo can give mid-diff/low-diff to Kaido, its all because Kaido was holding back and toying with him, not going all out. Its the same, plus BB's Darkness power forces him to get damage, while Kaido's and Big mom's abilities are based on not get damage.
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You are assuming whether or not BB went all out, when we don't know because it was off screen.

And Law had BB bleeding from his nose,mouth and head.

As for Darkness powers, they increase pain and not damage in the official translation:


It would have been low-diff if not for Oda drawing more injuries to BB, which implies a second strong attack from Law.
 
Erkan12

Erkan12

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#34
#34
Apollo said:
You are assuming whether or not BB went all out, when we don't know because it was off screen.

And Law had BB bleeding from his nose,mouth and head.

As for Darkness powers, they increase pain and not damage in the official translation:


It would have been low-diff if not for Oda drawing more injuries to BB, which implies a second strong attack from Law.
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I am not assuming because its clear that there are no big waves and the island isn't even damaged heavily, that tells me BB didn't go all out with his Tremor DF. We know what he could do when he fought Sengoku.

BB is careless, perhaps he thought he finished Law, then Law cheap-shotted him but didn't work. Off-panel after all. But we know Law is sneaky and very tricky, and BB is careless and overconfident, worse match-up for BB, its possible Law tried to cheap-shot him after pretending he lost, and perhaps that caused that little damage.

As for the darkness, his body draws everything towards him, so it makes him harder to dodge, so he relies on his Haki and his special body + stamina to balance that weakness that Darkness gives defensively, his body is more open to damage compared to others, and he still overcomes that. He doesn't have Big mom's super tough skin or Kaido's tough skin, he relies on stamina via not needing to sleep.
 
WaidoWSC

WaidoWSC

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#39
#39
JayKitetsu said:
It was overall a mid diff. Law was able to get a hit in, clash with BB and get at least one more hit in off screen before going down. BB is a slow starter in his fights so it’s to be expected.

Shanks vs Kidd was a low diff. Honestly if you swap opponents for Kidd and Law it probably goes the same way
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Yeah Despite Law being a darling of Loda, he would‘ve given him the same treatment that he gave to Midd with his golden boy Shanks.
 
Jailer

Jailer

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#40
#40
Law vs BB lasted a hell of a lot longer than Kidd vs Shanks. I am going with mid diff for not but due to how BB is shown reacting to pain it might have even been a low diff, which is still impressive for Law as Kidd with Killer together were one shot by Shanks. That speaks volumes in a way about him too I guess, but wont necessarily take away Law and his crew putting up a fight against BBP
 
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