AL sama

Red Haired
Do you know what Islam actually teaches in regards on how to treat the places of worship of other religions?
The first Conquest of Jerusalem by Caliph Umar. The head of the Jerusalem church walks out to greet him and offers Umar to pray in a Jerusalem church (since there were no mosques in the city).

Umar refuses. Why? Because, had he prayed at that church, muslims might have seen it as a holy place and would want to turn it into a mosque. So he refused in order to protect it.

Furthermore, he saw a lack of Jews in Jerusalem. First thing he does is send for Jewish families living in Arabia to come and settle in Jerusalem because the city is holy to them as much as to Christians and Muslims
islam straight up teaches us not to disrespect any religion

it also says not to force anyone into converting to islam
 
islam straight up teaches us not to disrespect any religion

it also says not to force anyone into converting to islam
Yes, but muslims =/= islam
Which goes for every religion and its followers

It's just that people twist religions rulings and verses to fit any narrative they wish to accomplish.

That's why we get groups like the KKK, ISIS, and whatever the name of the Hindu extremists is
 

AL sama

Red Haired
Yes, but muslims =/= islam
Which goes for every religion and its followers

It's just that people twist religions rulings and verses to fit any narrative they wish to accomplish.

That's why we get groups like the KKK, ISIS, and whatever the name of the Hindu extremists is
yes but some people just choose to be ignorant lol
In Nazism it is Race, in Communism it is Class and in Islam it is the Infidels.
comparing with nazis??
 
Europeans are real.
Native Indians are real.
Europeans had very little presence in India till Colonizers
Indo-Europeans ≠ Europeans

It's just how they are called based on the spread of the linguistic family pre-colonization
In the German language they are also called Indo-Germanics because the sub family furthest to the south east is the Indo-Aryan one ,and the sub family furthest to the north west is the Germanic family
To be fair here, the use of the concept of "indo-european" is only a linguistic concept. That is by the way subject to controversy among linguists themselves.
I'm aware that it's a descriptor of linguistic ties but as a matter of fact , this language family must have spread somehow, no?
A language cannot travel by itself, it's people who migrate and bring their language with them.
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Because Hindus fought back. See what happened to Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Why did their population almost vanishes?
Ask the same question about pagan Europeans.😂
Where did they vanish to:choppawhat:
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There were and are many conquerors of different colors, races, faiths.

Demonizing a specific people or religion based on their role in conquests hundreds of years ago is unfair and bigoted.
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which is true too but we can't use the harems to generalize and conclude that they compromised the basics of the religion too.. i'm truly ignorant in this regard.
Christian European monarchs weren't much better, they too twisted Christianity according to their liking.
That's rather a matter of powerful rulers being shitstains than a matter of religion.
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A painting in the illustrated Akbarnama showed Akbar at the 2nd battle of Panipat, in 1526 CE, where Bairam Khan & Akbar colluded to behead Hemu. It depicted “Ghazi” Akbar & his army stacking up heads of Hemu's Hindu soldiers into a tower/
Average scene in any kind of ancient war.
Got nothing to do with Muslims supposedly being evil🙄
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Non proselytizing meaning non exploitation of local populace to meet conversion targets laid by ministries abroad.
You're talking about Mother Teresa here?
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That rarely happens.
First of all the intention to convert stems from the fact that Abrahamic religions lay heavy emphasis on hatred of non believers. Where there is hatred, Integration is rarely possible
You do kinda have a point.
Christianity and Islam are missionaric religions. The goal to spread the religion and to increase the number of followers has been there since day one.
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Yet the church places heavy emphasis on pagans and proselytizing.
What happened to the native religions of Greeks, Australian aborigines, Vikings etc.
What happened to Goan Hindus at the hands of Portuguese settlers?
Also
These religious faiths were eradicated through coercion, force ,psychological warfare and violence.
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Movies, state propaganda, etc are not valid sources for learning about a different culture/religion.
I completely agree with you here!
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Bro I studied in christian convent
Ouch:zosleepy:explainsa lot tbh
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Buy a Bible that is translated from Hebrew and read the new testament.
That's the first step of attempting conversion 😂😂😂 "here read the Bible, you may like it JOIN US JOIN US"
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Bible is revised by the church and the church wants to increase it's follower count. Is it not?
The Bible was revised and edited countless times😂
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Bro Azaan is not even the issue.
The issue starts with organized well planned stone pelting at our temples or religious processions on our festivals for which planning happens at the Mosques during Friday sermon
Such incidents may be happening but spreading even more hatred on both sides is not the way to solve these problems!
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Which is straight up false. Those people are, from the way you describe it, just animals that were played by whoever is behind their actions into doing what they're doing.
Reminds me of the Saudi financed salafist preachers in German Muslim communities that riled up the worshippers. Or the Erdogan financed preachers in Turkish Muslim mosques in Germany who aim at turning the worshippers into loyal Erdogan voters.....
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I don't have anything against Christ. I even respect him as equal to our Rishis(Wise sages).

But Church is a different thing altogether.
Yes that's true
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This what happens in Indian churches
I can't figure what happens in the photo. are the people injured??
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What do you mean "root language" ? Because there has never been an indo-european people nor has there been an indo-european language. Only theories of what the "mother language" could look like.
according to rhe theory the indo european root language emerged around 7000-8000 years ago , possibly somewhere around the black sea , some propose the Caucasus.
We can't really find that root language because the people of that time didn't write.
The earliest written Indo European languages are Sanskrit and Hethite( both not spoken in Europe)

The indo european root language is reconstructed by means of comparative linguistics.

Over time, indo european speaking peooles mixed with speakers if other languages, alao called substrate languages, each of them leaving some traces in the modern indo european languages.

Identity obsessed white supremacists ,on the other hand, abuse and exploit theseacientific findings for their often racist agendas.
Don't let their bullshit distract you from the actual research.
 
I'm aware that it's a descriptor of linguistic ties but as a matter of fact , this language family must have spread somehow, no?
A language cannot travel by itself, it's people who migrate and bring their language with them.
I'm not versed enough in linguistics to get into high debates about indo-europeans. But I know enough to say that the term should be taken with a grain of salt. Let's keep in mind that all neighboring languages have similarities.

Languages may interact via trade and share of knowledge


Ask the same question about pagan Europeans.😂
Where did they vanish to:choppawhat:
That's true. Lots of different cultures and languages vanished because of Christianity and lately Nation-States. The concept of genocide is barely brought up --because wars were involved-- but it sometimes should I guess.


PIE or proto indo-European, being the reconstructed hypothetical ancestor language for most of Europe, parts of the Near East and India.
It's all fun and games until the European Tower of Babel crumbles :josad:

Fuck English, I wanna speak Indo-European on WorstGen !
 
I will tell you what happened to me.

I was just past Kindergarten, in the first standard. My English teacher was teaching a lesson on some Story which had a thief in it. Immediately made Hindu students stand up and said "Your God Krishna is a thief." and made us repeat it. I told my father about it when I went home and my father requested the teacher not to bring religion into studies. Next day we, the Hindu students were made to stand on the bench outside our class and were beaten with a long cane with a stern warning that if we told our parents the next day we would be made to kneel down on the road and receive an even severe beating
Shit, I'm sorry you had to go through this.
Kinda explains much of your behavior and hatred.
Experiences like these may scar children for life.

I grew up in a small Bavarian(read: Catholic af) village and attended a Catholic kindergarten.
Obviously we were never beaten up (that's illegal in Germany) but we were exposed to tireless subconscious manipulation.
Christian agenda was everywhere. In the picture books.
The community events and gatherings.
We were scolded for questioning the accepted narrative about Jesus and God. If we asked questions we were subject to verbal abuse.
At any occasion they were mentioned, polytheistic religions were disrespected or outright demonized and so were their followers.
The apostles who brought Christianity to the region during the medieval era were praised and presented in a good light while the existence of older pagan beliefs was never mentioned and if someone brought it up or asked a question, they were dismissed and our pagan ancestors were compared to devil worshippers.


These experiences, among other things are one of the reasons I ended up developing an strong hatred for Christianity as a whole.

Villagers bribed with money to act in church events as possessed by devil in form of Hindu Gods and the Pastor "saves" them by his sermon. All this being done in hindu religious places with state support and foreign NGO funding
Holy shit wtf
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I'm not versed enough in linguistics to get into high debates about indo-europeans. But I know enough to say that the term should be taken with a grain of salt. Let's keep in mind that all neighboring languages have similarities.

Languages may interact via trade and share of knowledge




That's true. Lots of different cultures and languages vanished because of Christianity and lately Nation-States. The concept of genocide is barely brought up --because wars were involved-- but it sometimes should I guess.




It's all fun and games until the European Tower of Babel crumbles :josad:

Fuck English, I wanna speak Indo-European on WorstGen !
Bruh TAC using intellectual terms such as PIE:catsweat:
Are you a linguist @TheAncientCenturion ?
And I always try to dumb down my expressions because I don't want the Worstgen peasants to feel overwhelmed by too many strange words :emohiyo:


Also @Mathias if you're keen on up to a dozen grammatical cases and weird ass consonants to ahead :cheers:
For starters you may want to try out Lithuanian, the one European language that's still closes to Proto Indo-European.
I heard the country has a language commission whose job it is to watch over grammatical accuracy in public media because the language is supposedly so hard that not even native speakers can use it correctly :kobeha:
 
Bruh TAC using intellectual terms such as PIE:catsweat:
Aren't Americans always giving acronyms to everything ? This one sounds tasty...

Also @Mathias if you're keen on up to a dozen grammatical cases and weird ass consonants to ahead :cheers:
For starters you may want to try out Lithuanian, the one European language that's still closes to Proto Indo-European.
I heard the country has a language commission whose job it is to watch over grammatical accuracy in public media because the language is supposedly so hard that not even native speakers can use it correctly :kobeha:
People IRL think I'm good with languages because I speak three. But I failed to keep on learning German and Russian. Also my Spanish has gone so fucking low that I don't consider myself having ever learned it. I think I'm gonna skip on Lithuanian :laughmoji:
 
There were and are many conquerors of different colors, races, faiths.

Demonizing a specific people or religion based on their role in conquests hundreds of years ago is unfair and bigoted.
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I'm not

that's why I said they were conquerors. Plus being a conqueror isn't necessarily a bad thing. The mughals were pretty cool ngl. I believe that they ushered in the greatest era of prosperity for india, at least historically.
 
Plus being a conqueror isn't necessarily a bad thing. The mughals were pretty cool ngl. I believe that they ushered in the greatest era of prosperity for india, at least historically.
😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬

That's, like, the typical excuse for conquests.
"They were brutal and destroyed the natives BUT BUT mUCh pRosPeRiTy"
Tbh who needs "prosperity" when you're a conquered subordinate? 🤔
 
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