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Indo-Europeans ≠ Europeans
It's just how they are called based on the spread of the linguistic family pre-colonization
In the German language they are also called Indo-Germanics because the sub family furthest to the south east is the Indo-Aryan one ,and the sub family furthest to the north west is the Germanic family
I'm aware that it's a descriptor of linguistic ties but as a matter of fact , this language family must have spread somehow, no?
A language cannot travel by itself, it's people who migrate and bring their language with them.
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Ask the same question about pagan Europeans.😂
Where did they vanish to
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There were and are many conquerors of different colors, races, faiths.
Demonizing a specific people or religion based on their role in conquests hundreds of years ago is unfair and bigoted.
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Christian European monarchs weren't much better, they too twisted Christianity according to their liking.
That's rather a matter of powerful rulers being shitstains than a matter of religion.
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Average scene in any kind of ancient war.
Got nothing to do with Muslims supposedly being evil🙄
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You're talking about Mother Teresa here?
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You do kinda have a point.
Christianity and Islam are missionaric religions. The goal to spread the religion and to increase the number of followers has been there since day one.
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These religious faiths were eradicated through coercion, force ,psychological warfare and violence.
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I completely agree with you here!
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Ouch
explainsa lot tbh
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That's the first step of attempting conversion 😂😂😂 "here read the Bible, you may like it JOIN US JOIN US"
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The Bible was revised and edited countless times😂
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Such incidents may be happening but spreading even more hatred on both sides is not the way to solve these problems!
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Reminds me of the Saudi financed salafist preachers in German Muslim communities that riled up the worshippers. Or the Erdogan financed preachers in Turkish Muslim mosques in Germany who aim at turning the worshippers into loyal Erdogan voters.....
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Yes that's true
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I can't figure what happens in the photo. are the people injured??
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according to rhe theory the indo european root language emerged around 7000-8000 years ago , possibly somewhere around the black sea , some propose the Caucasus.
We can't really find that root language because the people of that time didn't write.
The earliest written Indo European languages are Sanskrit and Hethite( both not spoken in Europe)
The indo european root language is reconstructed by means of comparative linguistics.
Over time, indo european speaking peooles mixed with speakers if other languages, alao called substrate languages, each of them leaving some traces in the modern indo european languages.
Identity obsessed white supremacists ,on the other hand, abuse and exploit theseacientific findings for their often racist agendas.
Don't let their bullshit distract you from the actual research.
It's just how they are called based on the spread of the linguistic family pre-colonization
In the German language they are also called Indo-Germanics because the sub family furthest to the south east is the Indo-Aryan one ,and the sub family furthest to the north west is the Germanic family
I'm aware that it's a descriptor of linguistic ties but as a matter of fact , this language family must have spread somehow, no?
A language cannot travel by itself, it's people who migrate and bring their language with them.
[automerge]1683061731[/automerge]
Ask the same question about pagan Europeans.😂
Where did they vanish to
[automerge]1683062134[/automerge]
There were and are many conquerors of different colors, races, faiths.
Demonizing a specific people or religion based on their role in conquests hundreds of years ago is unfair and bigoted.
[automerge]1683062308[/automerge]
Christian European monarchs weren't much better, they too twisted Christianity according to their liking.
That's rather a matter of powerful rulers being shitstains than a matter of religion.
[automerge]1683062455[/automerge]
Average scene in any kind of ancient war.
Got nothing to do with Muslims supposedly being evil🙄
[automerge]1683062554[/automerge]
You're talking about Mother Teresa here?
[automerge]1683062683[/automerge]
You do kinda have a point.
Christianity and Islam are missionaric religions. The goal to spread the religion and to increase the number of followers has been there since day one.
[automerge]1683062769[/automerge]
These religious faiths were eradicated through coercion, force ,psychological warfare and violence.
[automerge]1683062820[/automerge]
I completely agree with you here!
[automerge]1683062911[/automerge]
Ouch
explainsa lot tbh[automerge]1683063020[/automerge]
That's the first step of attempting conversion 😂😂😂 "here read the Bible, you may like it JOIN US JOIN US"
[automerge]1683063064[/automerge]
The Bible was revised and edited countless times😂
[automerge]1683063218[/automerge]
Such incidents may be happening but spreading even more hatred on both sides is not the way to solve these problems!
[automerge]1683063453[/automerge]
Reminds me of the Saudi financed salafist preachers in German Muslim communities that riled up the worshippers. Or the Erdogan financed preachers in Turkish Muslim mosques in Germany who aim at turning the worshippers into loyal Erdogan voters.....
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Yes that's true
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I can't figure what happens in the photo. are the people injured??
[automerge]1683064323[/automerge]
according to rhe theory the indo european root language emerged around 7000-8000 years ago , possibly somewhere around the black sea , some propose the Caucasus.
We can't really find that root language because the people of that time didn't write.
The earliest written Indo European languages are Sanskrit and Hethite( both not spoken in Europe)
The indo european root language is reconstructed by means of comparative linguistics.
Over time, indo european speaking peooles mixed with speakers if other languages, alao called substrate languages, each of them leaving some traces in the modern indo european languages.
Identity obsessed white supremacists ,on the other hand, abuse and exploit theseacientific findings for their often racist agendas.
Don't let their bullshit distract you from the actual research.
I'm not versed enough in linguistics to get into high debates about indo-europeans. But I know enough to say that the term should be taken with a grain of salt. Let's keep in mind that all neighboring languages have similarities.
Languages may interact via trade and share of knowledge
That's true. Lots of different cultures and languages vanished because of Christianity and lately Nation-States. The concept of genocide is barely brought up --because wars were involved-- but it sometimes should I guess.
It's all fun and games until the European Tower of Babel crumbles
Fuck English, I wanna speak Indo-European on WorstGen !
Languages may interact via trade and share of knowledge
Ask the same question about pagan Europeans.😂
Where did they vanish to
Where did they vanish to
It's all fun and games until the European Tower of Babel crumbles
Fuck English, I wanna speak Indo-European on WorstGen !
Shit, I'm sorry you had to go through this.
Kinda explains much of your behavior and hatred.
Experiences like these may scar children for life.
I grew up in a small Bavarian(read: Catholic af) village and attended a Catholic kindergarten.
Obviously we were never beaten up (that's illegal in Germany) but we were exposed to tireless subconscious manipulation.
Christian agenda was everywhere. In the picture books.
The community events and gatherings.
We were scolded for questioning the accepted narrative about Jesus and God. If we asked questions we were subject to verbal abuse.
At any occasion they were mentioned, polytheistic religions were disrespected or outright demonized and so were their followers.
The apostles who brought Christianity to the region during the medieval era were praised and presented in a good light while the existence of older pagan beliefs was never mentioned and if someone brought it up or asked a question, they were dismissed and our pagan ancestors were compared to devil worshippers.
These experiences, among other things are one of the reasons I ended up developing an strong hatred for Christianity as a whole.
Holy shit wtf
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Bruh TAC using intellectual terms such as PIE
Are you a linguist @TheAncientCenturion ?
And I always try to dumb down my expressions because I don't want the Worstgen peasants to feel overwhelmed by too many strange words
Also @Mathias if you're keen on up to a dozen grammatical cases and weird ass consonants to ahead :cheers:
For starters you may want to try out Lithuanian, the one European language that's still closes to Proto Indo-European.
I heard the country has a language commission whose job it is to watch over grammatical accuracy in public media because the language is supposedly so hard that not even native speakers can use it correctly
Kinda explains much of your behavior and hatred.
Experiences like these may scar children for life.
I grew up in a small Bavarian(read: Catholic af) village and attended a Catholic kindergarten.
Obviously we were never beaten up (that's illegal in Germany) but we were exposed to tireless subconscious manipulation.
Christian agenda was everywhere. In the picture books.
The community events and gatherings.
We were scolded for questioning the accepted narrative about Jesus and God. If we asked questions we were subject to verbal abuse.
At any occasion they were mentioned, polytheistic religions were disrespected or outright demonized and so were their followers.
The apostles who brought Christianity to the region during the medieval era were praised and presented in a good light while the existence of older pagan beliefs was never mentioned and if someone brought it up or asked a question, they were dismissed and our pagan ancestors were compared to devil worshippers.
These experiences, among other things are one of the reasons I ended up developing an strong hatred for Christianity as a whole.
Holy shit wtf
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I'm not versed enough in linguistics to get into high debates about indo-europeans. But I know enough to say that the term should be taken with a grain of salt. Let's keep in mind that all neighboring languages have similarities.
Languages may interact via trade and share of knowledge
That's true. Lots of different cultures and languages vanished because of Christianity and lately Nation-States. The concept of genocide is barely brought up --because wars were involved-- but it sometimes should I guess.
It's all fun and games until the European Tower of Babel crumbles
Fuck English, I wanna speak Indo-European on WorstGen !
Languages may interact via trade and share of knowledge
That's true. Lots of different cultures and languages vanished because of Christianity and lately Nation-States. The concept of genocide is barely brought up --because wars were involved-- but it sometimes should I guess.
It's all fun and games until the European Tower of Babel crumbles
Fuck English, I wanna speak Indo-European on WorstGen !
Are you a linguist @TheAncientCenturion ?
And I always try to dumb down my expressions because I don't want the Worstgen peasants to feel overwhelmed by too many strange words
Also @Mathias if you're keen on up to a dozen grammatical cases and weird ass consonants to ahead :cheers:
For starters you may want to try out Lithuanian, the one European language that's still closes to Proto Indo-European.
I heard the country has a language commission whose job it is to watch over grammatical accuracy in public media because the language is supposedly so hard that not even native speakers can use it correctly
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Bruh TAC using intellectual terms such as PIE
Also @Mathias if you're keen on up to a dozen grammatical cases and weird ass consonants to ahead :cheers:
For starters you may want to try out Lithuanian, the one European language that's still closes to Proto Indo-European.
I heard the country has a language commission whose job it is to watch over grammatical accuracy in public media because the language is supposedly so hard that not even native speakers can use it correctly
For starters you may want to try out Lithuanian, the one European language that's still closes to Proto Indo-European.
I heard the country has a language commission whose job it is to watch over grammatical accuracy in public media because the language is supposedly so hard that not even native speakers can use it correctly
I just don't want to expose how much of a nerd I am ok!?
Okay I forgive you 
On a serious note, it's kinda a (possibly bad) habit of mine.
I dumb down my speech and sometimes even pretended to be outright stupid in school in order to fit in and avoid standing out.
Maybe I should work on getting rid of that tho🤔 bad habits die hard. Been doing that since elementary