Powers & Abilities Why didn’t Oden have a black blade?
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This is actually very simple.
Oden wasn't strong enough.
Zoro's path is the lens in which we the audience are viewing the creation of the greatest swordman ever and his path to that power can't be anymore linear in terms of the progression of his swords and his Haki progression;
Meitou swords > incorporating Basic Coa > Advance Coa > ACOC > FORGING a Black blade/Supreme grade sword.
The idea that Black blade are created via some abstract concept of swordmanship and some unexplored spiritual affinity that "Pure swordman" have are just convenient excuses to justify why Mihaw/Ryuma have something that other Top tiers don't have instead of just acknowledging that they may be better at that criteria of power.
Heck, Katakuri have FS and Roger and Whitebeard are not canonically confirmed to have it.
Rayleigh have Internal destruction and Garp, Roger etc don't.
Oda asked what alongside Arnament Haki makes a Black blade and it very highly that it will just be a higher proficiency of a certain type of Haki (Acoc) or another power system. It won't be some "pure swordmanship" nonsense.
Oden wasn't strong enough.
Zoro's path is the lens in which we the audience are viewing the creation of the greatest swordman ever and his path to that power can't be anymore linear in terms of the progression of his swords and his Haki progression;
Meitou swords > incorporating Basic Coa > Advance Coa > ACOC > FORGING a Black blade/Supreme grade sword.
The idea that Black blade are created via some abstract concept of swordmanship and some unexplored spiritual affinity that "Pure swordman" have are just convenient excuses to justify why Mihaw/Ryuma have something that other Top tiers don't have instead of just acknowledging that they may be better at that criteria of power.
Heck, Katakuri have FS and Roger and Whitebeard are not canonically confirmed to have it.
Rayleigh have Internal destruction and Garp, Roger etc don't.
Oda asked what alongside Arnament Haki makes a Black blade and it very highly that it will just be a higher proficiency of a certain type of Haki (Acoc) or another power system. It won't be some "pure swordmanship" nonsense.
Woah, slow your roll.
The biggest loser on this forum is you, I'm not the one that religiously believed in ZKK and ended running away with your tail between your legs when the theory failed.
Waiting on Oda
The biggest loser on this forum is you, I'm not the one that religiously believed in ZKK and ended running away with your tail between your legs when the theory failed.
Waiting on Oda
Oden had the sword since he was a teen and used it for over 30 years and couldn't do it.
You have 0 argument.
Hmm, you’re saying it’s not a power up?
@Celestial D. Dragon You’re saying Oden simply chose not to make a black blade
Are you saying every swordsman in the world is one choice away from making a black blade?
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@Celestial D. Dragon You’re saying Oden simply chose not to make a black blade
Are you saying every swordsman in the world is one choice away from making a black blade?
How did you possibly infer that from my question?
You want to know why he didn't turn his blade black. I asked how does one do that?
When we find out the answer to my question, it will answer your question.
Yall need to stop pretending like all Swordsmen should be capable of something we don't even know how it's achieved.
You want to know why he didn't turn his blade black. I asked how does one do that?
When we find out the answer to my question, it will answer your question.
Yall need to stop pretending like all Swordsmen should be capable of something we don't even know how it's achieved.
I don't think it's a direct power up in the sense that having a black blade made the user sword superior to one blade that isn't black. Otherwise the battle against Vista would be different. At a minimum the blade would be a actual concern during the battle.
The thing that I think is more plausible based on the hints is that a permanent black blade don't need a continuous infusion of Haki (CoA) to block or attack another haki user, making the user less tired and any use of Haki beyond the base a plus. A user without a black blade would end up wasting more energy to get the same base results as someone with a BB. In this sense a user of Black blade would have a advantage (specially in long battles) that would tip the scales in his favor, but this advantage is not a direct power up that increase AP or defense, beyond the usual levels of the user.
The thing that I think is more plausible based on the hints is that a permanent black blade don't need a continuous infusion of Haki (CoA) to block or attack another haki user, making the user less tired and any use of Haki beyond the base a plus. A user without a black blade would end up wasting more energy to get the same base results as someone with a BB. In this sense a user of Black blade would have a advantage (specially in long battles) that would tip the scales in his favor, but this advantage is not a direct power up that increase AP or defense, beyond the usual levels of the user.
