Character Discussion The Gorosei and Imu probably aren't as remarkable as you think they are.
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I dont see anything about their abilities being hellish, you are talking about this panel? right? =>
He is talking about the truth hidden at the top of the world is diabolical
Jailer beasts were awakened too
Tbh, the jailer beast looked more menacing than those two. There is another gorosei whose silhouette looks like a rooster!
Jailer beasts were awakened too
Tbh, the jailer beast looked more menacing than those two. There is another gorosei whose silhouette looks like a rooster!
I dont see anything about their abilities being hellish, you are talking about this panel? right? =>
He is talking about the truth hidden at the top of the world is diabolical
Jailer beasts were awakened too
Tbh, the jailer beast looked more menacing than those two. There is another gorosei whose silhouette looks like a rooster!
Jailer beasts were awakened too
Tbh, the jailer beast looked more menacing than those two. There is another gorosei whose silhouette looks like a rooster!
I'm not exactly enthusiastic about the Gorosei designs, but I expect them to be better just because they will appear in a lot more chapters than the jailers
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@Nidai_Kitetsu do you have any predictions on what devil fruits some of the Gorosei may have?
Good evening everyone. First, i would like to clarify that this isn't a thread based on powerscaling, not saying that the Gorosei and Imu aren't strong.
I've seen lots of theories about Imu being some sort of alien like Kaguya was, or being some sort of primordial entity that's responsible for the creation of the Devil Fruits.
However, this panel heavily suggests that Imu was simply one of the 20 kings responsible for founding the government. This makes me think that Imu, was most likely, a human.
Imu is probably just a powerful mythical zoan user(a dragon or a demon?) that had the Op Op no Mi immortality surgery performed on him/her.
I've also heard recent speculation that Sabo referring to the Gorosei's powers as "hellish" suggests that they aren't devil fruit users, but instead something else. I highly doubt that's true. The silhouettes also remind me of other zoan silhouettes, like Jabra and Lucci's in Enies Lobby. I doubt they are anything more than mythical zoans or even regular zoans.
This chapter also revived many theories about the Gorosei being some centuries old entities who were present in the Void Century. They could be a few hundred years old(maybe they also had the surgery performed on them?), but they aren't that old. They were literally talking about how the government failed to acquire the Nika fruit after all.
Overall, while Imu and the Gorosei definitely are major characters who are connected to lots of important things in the story's overall lore, evidence seems to suggest that they are just normal humans, not primordial sea gods, not aliens, just humans.
Of course this could easily be proven wrong, but for the time being, I feel like it's heavily implied that they are just normal humans with fruits.
I've seen lots of theories about Imu being some sort of alien like Kaguya was, or being some sort of primordial entity that's responsible for the creation of the Devil Fruits.
However, this panel heavily suggests that Imu was simply one of the 20 kings responsible for founding the government. This makes me think that Imu, was most likely, a human.
Imu is probably just a powerful mythical zoan user(a dragon or a demon?) that had the Op Op no Mi immortality surgery performed on him/her.
I've also heard recent speculation that Sabo referring to the Gorosei's powers as "hellish" suggests that they aren't devil fruit users, but instead something else. I highly doubt that's true. The silhouettes also remind me of other zoan silhouettes, like Jabra and Lucci's in Enies Lobby. I doubt they are anything more than mythical zoans or even regular zoans.
This chapter also revived many theories about the Gorosei being some centuries old entities who were present in the Void Century. They could be a few hundred years old(maybe they also had the surgery performed on them?), but they aren't that old. They were literally talking about how the government failed to acquire the Nika fruit after all.
Overall, while Imu and the Gorosei definitely are major characters who are connected to lots of important things in the story's overall lore, evidence seems to suggest that they are just normal humans, not primordial sea gods, not aliens, just humans.
Of course this could easily be proven wrong, but for the time being, I feel like it's heavily implied that they are just normal humans with fruits.
Lily could've met pre Nika joyboy-guy, fell in love with him and gave him her fruit. He was hunted by early WG, awakened, freed slaves and shit and also distributed the poneglyphs.
Nevertheless, I don't expect any of the gorosei or Imu capable of clashing with some kaido 1vs1 and survive that encounter. They'll probably have some op divine hacks though.
I think the moment Imu appeared, the Gorosei being immortal went out the window. It does seem like they have some sort of long life span though, seeing as how they havenβt really aged like that compared to Rayleigh, Garp and Sengoku. Whatever the case, Imu is definitely from the Void Century, and him possessing a mythical zoan fruit would not be enough, either he has a fruit that is just as special or more than Lawβs fruit or he has multiple fruits(think like him having a zoan, a paramecia and a logia at once). The bar would have to be that high considering we already had mythical zoan dragon with Kaido and BB already has a set of two crazy fruits. Imu would have to match that at the very least as the final villian.
Btw, Sawyer had an interesting theory. The gorosei are made from the souls of Imu. Thats why they have shapes like Big Mom's incarnations:
Big Mom's incarnations were capable of human speech and could follow basic orders. Gorosei might be advanced versions of incarnations of Imu's souls, kinda like Voldemort splitting his soul through horcruxes.
Big Mom's incarnations were capable of human speech and could follow basic orders. Gorosei might be advanced versions of incarnations of Imu's souls, kinda like Voldemort splitting his soul through horcruxes.
Btw, Sawyer had an interesting theory. The gorosei are made from the souls of Imu. Thats why they have shapes like Big Mom's incarnations:
Big Mom's incarnations were capable of human speech and could follow basic orders. Gorosei might be advanced versions of incarnations of Imu's souls, kinda like Voldemort splitting his soul through horcruxes.
Big Mom's incarnations were capable of human speech and could follow basic orders. Gorosei might be advanced versions of incarnations of Imu's souls, kinda like Voldemort splitting his soul through horcruxes.
Now that you mentioned horcruxes, it got me thinking. Remember how Harry was technically a horcrux?
Maybe, the Gorosei were given bits of Imu's soul that provided them with their transformations?
Though, in the most recent chapter, Topman did at first disagree with Imu. He showed concern for the citizens living in the kingdom. That implies to me that the Gorosei disagree with Imu on a few things despite their loyalty and might not be part of Imu's soul.
If Imu is originally just a normal human with Ope2 immortalization, just that he was one of WG founder with elite lineage and blood etc etc
(instead of a literal godlike being from the past that played massive part in the lore such as - i dunno - originally created Devil Fruits for example),
I would be definitely be disappointed by how Gorosei chose to obey him unconditionally as if he can crush entire world by his own power while no one can do a thing about it.
(instead of a literal godlike being from the past that played massive part in the lore such as - i dunno - originally created Devil Fruits for example),
I would be definitely be disappointed by how Gorosei chose to obey him unconditionally as if he can crush entire world by his own power while no one can do a thing about it.
It depends on their role. Im is for sure a final villain candidate and if indeed that is confirmed he will be, one way or another (hax and or powerhouse) the strongest in the verse bar eos Luffy. And his gorosei will be very string as well if they stay until the end or almost (yonko level and above?). But if the final villain is BB and Im will turn out just as some sort penultimate villain or fertilizer for BB then their powerlevels will be reduced by a tremendous margin depending on how Oda wants to use them.
Yes, they have to be humans.
(Or at least humanish. If they are related to the moon people thatβs fine, so are the Skypieans/Shandians/Birkans.)
Anyway, the important thing is Donquioxteβs dad. Who pointed out the entire ridiculousness of all the Celestial Dragon nonsense by pointing out βwe are humans, and we always have been.β He needs to be right.
Itβs also a deliberate tie in to the Japanese royal family Humanity Declaration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanity_Declaration
(Or at least humanish. If they are related to the moon people thatβs fine, so are the Skypieans/Shandians/Birkans.)
Anyway, the important thing is Donquioxteβs dad. Who pointed out the entire ridiculousness of all the Celestial Dragon nonsense by pointing out βwe are humans, and we always have been.β He needs to be right.
Itβs also a deliberate tie in to the Japanese royal family Humanity Declaration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanity_Declaration
