[FNZ] Salem of Lies Town of Salem (Unofficial)

[Don DaSlayer]

@Don DaSlayer protecting relapse because you like him? really?

Queen Im tired protecting myself. Just vote on me. It doesn’t matter if im inno or gulity. Everyone is against me.

 

[Natalija]

This is like DA all over again. Speaking of, where are you @Dark Admiral ?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

ToS does have those types of roles. Every single 3rd party and the Godfather investigate innocent to the Sheriff.

Like you said here, his defensiveness over something miniscule as one thing. The constant insults. All of this is unnecessary. Dude comes off as a cornered scum lashing out instead of a genuine townie. Then he goes and says that he will come up innocent then claims a role that is a popular fake claim for an invest immune scum role: GF. A bit too coincidental. But the nail in the coffin here is that night action. Protecting Relapse? Wtf is that? Who is attacking him? Why not me, why not you, why not Kiwi, why not Cel? These would make sense. But Relapse? That's a lie in a half right there.

Is 3rd party Invest immune? I know WW shows up as Sheriff, GF as not suspicious. But I thought SK and Arso were agiven.

And, yeah. His decision to protect Relapse over a more vocal player is a big slip for him. There's no justification for it. The rest, I've pretty much agreed with in earlier posts.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

 

[Natalija]

He’s hereeeee <3

 

[Dragomir]

Is 3rd party Invest immune? I know WW shows up as Sheriff, GF as not suspicious. But I thought SK and Arso were agiven.

And, yeah. His decision to protect Relapse over a more vocal player is a big slip for him. There's no justification for it. The rest, I've pretty much agreed with in earlier posts.

Yes. All 3rd parties except SK and WW investigate innocent(or not suspicious) to the Sheriff. SK comes up as SK to him(which is retarded) and the WW comes up as the WW to the Sheriff on full moon(even) nights.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

We can have multiple Bodyguards. We have a big pool of players and in the Online vers. I've had games with 3 TPs. However, that doesn't make it likely nor does that give much credence to Don's claims.

We have a long day phase, so there's no point in tunneling him immediately. I think there's reasonable sus, we have a Jailor who can execute him at the very least or we lynch him at the end of this phase if no better options are presented.

Yes. All 3rd parties except SK and WW investigate innocent(or not suspicious) to the Sheriff. SK comes up as SK to him(which is retarded) and the WW comes up as the WW to the Sheriff on full moon(even) nights.

Which, if the WW stays home, means dead Sheriff.

 

[Kiwipom]

Well I base my conclusions on how the people I know act, and what I said was true.

You're quick to accuse, missy, don't forget you're just as big of a suspect.

Oh yeah, just suspect right back. I said you’re up my radar, didn’t say I was pinning you as scum already.

Why are you so defensive over a small question? If you know last game it was possible to have 2 butlers then it should be possible to have 2 bodyguards in this game.

Dragomir answered my question that having 2 bodyguards is possible since it's not a unique role.

Because I think it was a dumb question. I don’t wanna get into the details of last game but yes, you did drive me nuts when you refused to believe that there’s two Butlers after we were proven that it’s possible to have two knights.

Last ToS game I played didn’t have dupe roles iirc. That’s what I’m basing it off of, not a ToL game.

Hmm. Those two look fine to me. Nat played one game with Don where he was town in. He's doing the same thing as he did there, so it's logical from her PoV to town read him for the similar meta. Same for Rayan. Similar meta will lead him to having town reading Don. I don't really see them "dismissing" his gameplay.

I don't know what the hell Neutral is trying to say in that post.

My point for Rayan is he is being more assertive than his previous games. As for Nat, it felt like she was backing up Rayan after seeing an opportunity to put Don into her town list.
Also the whole, host won’t pick me as scum argument isn’t helping.

 

[Seraphoenix]

Either Don is scum or he folds like a garden chair under the tiniest bit of pressure

@Reborn Vote Lynch Don

 

[Dragomir]

wtf is this.

I went on and on about there not being two repeated roles last game up until we lynched two knights. That was when I was finally proven that it was possible to have dupe roles, thus finally accepting that there might be two butlers.

This is a new game, so I'm back to believing that there's no dupes unless if there's something proving otherwise. Especially since according to Drago, there might be 6 or 7 scums in the whole set ups, I don't think there's much room for dupes.

This logic doesn't add up. Why would you go back to believing in no dupes when you were proven wrong before on them? It's not like ToL and ToS are vastly different. Both have unique roles and roles that can repeat. Hell, there were 6 duplicates last game. 2 butlers, 2 maids, and 2 knights.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Either Don is scum or he folds like a garden chair under the tiniest bit of pressure

@Reborn Vote Lynch Don

I wish i was scum.I would have killed TAC on N1

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

ToS usually has quite a few dupes in my experience, for town. Not so much for Mafia.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

ToS usually has quite a few dupes in my experience, for town. Not so much for Mafia.

The last time you played ToS where Al is the host, were there duplicate roles?

 

[Dragomir]

Last ToS game I played didn’t have dupe roles iirc. That’s what I’m basing it off of, not a ToL game.

The last ToS game was 15 players. Your argument about no dupes would be fair here if this was a 15 player game. 15 is a small pool. 18 isn't.

 

[Celestia]

If reborn was in this game i would have protected him. But i choose Relapse bc i like him. I could have went for Drago but it felt like he was vet baiting so that’s why i didn’t pick.


If you wanna confirm my role then let LO watch what me on N2.

just cuz if someone saw you not killing doesn't mean you can't be lying

Well I base my conclusions on how the people I know act, and what I said was true.

You're quick to accuse, missy, don't forget you're just as big of a suspect.

why do you sus Kiwi ?

Why are you so defensive over a small question? If you know last game it was possible to have 2 butlers then it should be possible to have 2 bodyguards in this game.

Dragomir answered my question that having 2 bodyguards is possible since it's not a unique role.

hm TOL and TOS are different games why are you discussing this ?

 

[NeutralWatcher]

hm TOL and TOS are different games why are you discussing this ?

It is still mafia. Just like Sk is common independent role in mafia, I thought duplicate roles is also common.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The last time you played ToS where Al is the host, were there duplicate roles?

No idea, that was a long time ago. But for the online version, @Queen can back me up here, dupes isn't uncommon.

 

[Celestia]

It is still mafia. Just like Sk is common independent role in mafia, I thought duplicate roles is also common.

no
both have different mechanics
i feel this is pointless trying to compare them

 

[Ena]

No idea, that was a long time ago. But for the online version, @Queen can back me up here, dupes isn't uncommon.

yep, dupes are not rare in tos

 

[NeutralWatcher]

no
both have different mechanics
i feel this is pointless trying to compare them

Both have same winning condition. Mafia wins when they have majority. The only different mechanic is there was king and King can be replaced when he/she dies. Sk is similar to what TAC played in Throne of Lies, Jester is similar to Fool.