[FNZ] Role Madness Jujutsu Kaisen Mafia - Shibuya Incident [Game Ended = Mafia + Traitor + Neutral Indie Won!]

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you never played with me, go sit in the corner if you think i need to give a reason, anyways you clearly skipped reading by your response with the entrance enlighten me.

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yes, you need to be able to give supporting rationale lest your reads look like a load of fabricated shit?
 
To say it in the simple language of you peasants: KWEH is kinda meh. He accused us of saying something just to say something but his own posts are not filled with any thoughts on his own. His 3 posts are:
1. Stating the obvious that Ultra´s claim looks believable but not AI
2. Asking us what the numbers of our assumptions regarding the assassins are based on, accusing us of what we guess is called CWOC in mafia terms.
3. Quoting a post of Destroya where Destroya is asking her why she acts like a newbie and why she´s so reluctant and defensive. Not adding anything to this statement, just saying "me likey this postey".
That's good post, quoting to keep it in mind.
Why don't he have a wagon?
Care to explain what´s so fishy about his claims and jokes to you?
The scum claims and take them back (obviously) are Wifom and not solving the game at all, it's just a non-conformist attitude who never helps town.
 
Day 1 - Vote Count 2 (As of Post #886)


Votes:
Ultra ->
Mid> Hime
Dest -> Ultra > Hime > Mitch
Hime -> Ultra
Psylocke -> Naomi > Hime > Mid > Hime
AM -> Mid
Ratchet -> Hime
Prof -> Hime > Unvote > Hime > Mitch
Gram -> Prof
Nika -> Joy
Flower -> Kweh
Cal -> Reloaded
Kweh -> Conq
Neeko -> Prof


Count:
Hime = 3
(Utra, Ratchet, Psylocke)
Mitch = 2 (Dest, Prof)
Prof = 2 (Gram, Neeko)
Ultra = 1 (Hime)
Mid = 1 (AM)
Joy = 1 (Nika)
Kweh = 1 (Flower)
Reloaded = 1 (Cal)
Conq = 1 (Kweh)

Non Voters = 14 (Mono, Tpein, Conq, Kiku, Watson, Joy, Mid, Naomi, Reloaded, Mitch, Orwellian, Mango, Broker, Michelle)


Please let me know if I made any mistakes

With 27 alive, it takes 14 to achieve majority
A little more than 1 day 11 hours and 30 minutes is left


Day 1 ends in - Countdown

@MonochromeYoru , @T-Pein™ , @ConquistadoR , @Kiku , @Dr. Watson, @Joygirl , @Midnight Delight , @Naomi, @Mr. Reloaded, @MitchMatch , @Orwellian , @MangoSenpai , @Underworld Broker
Please vote
 
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Joygirl1

Vote lynch Psylocke

Did you notice how opportunistic and all over the place she is? First voting Naomi (did she explain why by now?), then she wants to keep her because "she is too funny" After that she she wants to take our throne by accusing us of TMI and despite not voting us (is she afraid of our royal status and how bad she might look for going after her queen?) suggest that we should get assassinated for the reason of not liking the way we express ourselves. Basically the same nonsense reason NikaInParis was voting us previously. While at the same time Naomi spamming is called funny. Mighty double standards, wouldn´t you agree? But this is not the end yet. Between those posts she simply hanged on to vote for Midnight only because Ultra was asking for it. And ultimately she changed her vote to hime and dipped. All of her votes were basically given without explanations and she looks very inconsistent to us.
 
Vote lynch Psylocke

Did you notice how opportunistic and all over the place she is? First voting Naomi (did she explain why by now?), then she wants to keep her because "she is too funny" After that she she wants to take our throne by accusing us of TMI and despite not voting us (is she afraid of our royal status and how bad she might look for going after her queen?) suggest that we should get assassinated for the reason of not liking the way we express ourselves. Basically the same nonsense reason NikaInParis was voting us previously. While at the same time Naomi spamming is called funny. Mighty double standards, wouldn´t you agree? But this is not the end yet. Between those posts she simply hanged on to vote for Midnight only because Ultra was asking for it. And ultimately she changed her vote to hime and dipped. All of her votes were basically given without explanations and she looks very inconsistent to us.
i was gonna question you on some of this but I don’t feel like inserting myself in the middle of some triple threat cat fight so whatever

All I’ll say is this post seeks to be derived from an ostensibly inflamed defence mechanism rather than anything play related of substance
 
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Joygirl1

So can you answer if there was actually anything you based those numbers on or are you just gonna sweep that one under the rug?
Those numbers are assumptions made by experience as player and as creator (host). Let me educate you, peasant: For this assasination mechanis to work without being too one-sided in either town´s or scum´s favour it must be guaranteed that this is somewhat balanced like a scale. There is the possibility that the assassins are 1 town, 1 indie, 1 maf. But if the town indie dies it automatically would immediately become scumfavoured and the other way around. With that high number of players there is a good possibility that there are two scum teams. If we created a mafia round with such mechanis and two scum teams we would give each mafia team one assassin and to make up for this giving town two assassins. Plus our consent is that there is most likely an indie assassin too, right? So if one town assassin dies it might not automatically turn into scum´s favour completely as the two mafia assassins would be from different teams and could possibly be assassinating each other or the team members from the opposing team too.

The biggest point is however that the assassins are depending on the person who is giving them their orders as well as Ultra´s suggestion that town should get together and giving that person a recommendation which player they want to see dead. We would personally add that as soon as the first town assassins falls dead we should all rethink this mechanic and either only publically nominate players we are 100 % sure of or make it clear that the person giving the orders should simply stop giving them.
 
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Joygirl1

i was gonna question you on some of this but I don’t feel like inserting myself in the middle of some triple threat cat fight so whatever

All I’ll say is this post seeks to be derived from an ostensibly inflamed defence mechanism rather than anything play related of substance
What is it that you do like about Psylocke so far? And can you refute any of those things we have stated about her play?
 
What is it that you do like about Psylocke so far? And can you refute any of those things we have stated about her play?
well your play based criticisms are that she’s all over the place and opportunistic, yes?

they amount to roughly the same thing, and it’s a trait that isn’t really scummy - what ‘opportunities’ is she taking in your eyes, and would it be better if she just tunnelled one person, or did nothing at all?
 
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Joygirl1

well your play based criticisms are that she’s all over the place and opportunistic, yes?

they amount to roughly the same thing, and it’s a trait that isn’t really scummy - what ‘opportunities’ is she taking in your eyes, and would it be better if she just tunnelled one person, or did nothing at all?
There´s way more to it, especially her last vote changes. She´s hanging on to Midnight because Ultra was suggesting it and then changes to hime because she already is under pressure. This looks like going for already low hanging fruits by just following others on their votes.
 
It's day one, so idk what to think yet
But from the posts so far, the sketchiest people seem to be:
- Joygirl - her role play might unironically be some sort of Binding Vow, the arrogance smells like Sukuna
- Ultra - probable assassin, and who can promise he won't target town tonight
- the inactive players - don't know much about them, but inactivity could (doesn't have to) point towards scum. But there's too many inactive guys
 
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Joygirl1

Why would I believe that?
Someone using a lie detect or scan probably.

It is beneath our dignity to directly claim but if forced there would be an easy way to prove your queen´s honest intentions. Although we should not do this without really good reasons at this point.
 
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