General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
Yeah, Kuzan was talking about himself here, not Smoker. Did you ignore the Fujitora flashback where Smoker dedicated himself to becoming a much stronger Marine just after the events of Punk Hazard? Its clear where his commitment lies.
So basically:
1. Loguetown - being a Marine
2. Alabasta - being a Marine
3. Marineford - being a Marine
4. Punk Hazard - being a Marine
Smoker’s dissatisfaction with the events of Alabasta and Punk Hazard in particular are what lead to the flashback of Fujitoras I mentioned above. Additionally, is Garp a pirate? Did he join Roger’s crew after the God Valley incident? Does Garp enjoy all of his Marine duties? The answer to all of those questions is “No” and he is still a Marine. In this way Smoker can be seen as Luffy’s ‘Garp’ parallel - the Marine hero that will ultimately be the one that gives Luffy the most trouble.
Bro even Akainu and Fujitora are disillusioned with the Marines. Are they going to be Strawhats too? You seem to have missed the point of the final saga: to change the world Government. The Marines will undergo significant change and the Marines like members of SWORD and the admirals I mentioned will be central to that. If they aren’t, then that’s terrible writing by Oda given the lengths he’s gone to to characterize these Marines in this specific way
There’s a lot that’s going to happen in the final saga. We will likely have an arc for every one of the following islands (if not most of them):
- Egghead
- Winner
- Elbaf
- Emptee Bluff
- Hachinosu
- Lodestar
- Laugh Tale
- Final War/Mariejoa
- Some kind of epilogue arc
that’s minimum 400 chapters of content given we can say with confidence that Elbaf and the final war arcs will both be at least the length of Whole Cake (with Final War likely being larger than Wano). There’s plenty of time for Smoker to show up somewhere. It doesn’t have to be Egghead. Oda has clearly written Egghead to be a Buster Call incident, hence all the Vice Admirals. The Arc will be over in the next 10-15 real-time chapters. Not sure what this has to do with joining the Strawhats though.
Probably the same way he felt after Luffy saved Alabasta and the kids of Punk Hazard. He didn’t leave the Marines then, and he won’t leave them if he is on Egghead. Smoker is one of the characters that cares nought for history.
Just like the Admirals do. How have you not tweaked that the chances are he’s going to be a post-final war arc Marine Admiral? The chances are if he resigns from the Marines he becomes a member of SWORD, not a Pirate.
D. None, become a member of SWORD
E. He never resigns
I pick these two. You talk about this stuff like it’s inevitable
So basically:
1. Loguetown - being a Marine
2. Alabasta - being a Marine
3. Marineford - being a Marine
4. Punk Hazard - being a Marine
Smoker’s dissatisfaction with the events of Alabasta and Punk Hazard in particular are what lead to the flashback of Fujitoras I mentioned above. Additionally, is Garp a pirate? Did he join Roger’s crew after the God Valley incident? Does Garp enjoy all of his Marine duties? The answer to all of those questions is “No” and he is still a Marine. In this way Smoker can be seen as Luffy’s ‘Garp’ parallel - the Marine hero that will ultimately be the one that gives Luffy the most trouble.
Bro even Akainu and Fujitora are disillusioned with the Marines. Are they going to be Strawhats too? You seem to have missed the point of the final saga: to change the world Government. The Marines will undergo significant change and the Marines like members of SWORD and the admirals I mentioned will be central to that. If they aren’t, then that’s terrible writing by Oda given the lengths he’s gone to to characterize these Marines in this specific way
There’s a lot that’s going to happen in the final saga. We will likely have an arc for every one of the following islands (if not most of them):
- Egghead
- Winner
- Elbaf
- Emptee Bluff
- Hachinosu
- Lodestar
- Laugh Tale
- Final War/Mariejoa
- Some kind of epilogue arc
that’s minimum 400 chapters of content given we can say with confidence that Elbaf and the final war arcs will both be at least the length of Whole Cake (with Final War likely being larger than Wano). There’s plenty of time for Smoker to show up somewhere. It doesn’t have to be Egghead. Oda has clearly written Egghead to be a Buster Call incident, hence all the Vice Admirals. The Arc will be over in the next 10-15 real-time chapters. Not sure what this has to do with joining the Strawhats though.
Probably the same way he felt after Luffy saved Alabasta and the kids of Punk Hazard. He didn’t leave the Marines then, and he won’t leave them if he is on Egghead. Smoker is one of the characters that cares nought for history.
Just like the Admirals do. How have you not tweaked that the chances are he’s going to be a post-final war arc Marine Admiral? The chances are if he resigns from the Marines he becomes a member of SWORD, not a Pirate.
D. None, become a member of SWORD
E. He never resigns
I pick these two. You talk about this stuff like it’s inevitable
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So what?
Can be said about pretty much every character in the manga
Stop for a second and think about how many millions if not billions of possible themes are lacking from the crew. He's nothing special in that regard.
So what?
So what?
He could also stay with the Revolutionary Army where he belongs
So what?
Blackbeard for next Nakama:
Logia
Unique personality
Actually Pirate themed which is absent from the crew
Great use for defending/guarding the ship
Can stay on the ship
Not too weak
You see my point? Your vagaries apply to almost anyone.
Can be said about pretty much every character in the manga
Stop for a second and think about how many millions if not billions of possible themes are lacking from the crew. He's nothing special in that regard.
So what?
So what?
He could also stay with the Revolutionary Army where he belongs
So what?
Blackbeard for next Nakama:
Logia
Unique personality
Actually Pirate themed which is absent from the crew
Great use for defending/guarding the ship
Can stay on the ship
Not too weak
You see my point? Your vagaries apply to almost anyone.
Karasu's crows first showed up in chapter 592
Sabo's formal debut was chapter 583 while the third Sake cup was introduced somewhere in the Post-EL arc between chapters 431-441
So what makes Karasu different than Ivankov, Kuma or Dragon? All three were introduced way before both of them. In fact, what about Morley, who Ivankov mentioned back in Impel Down?
I'm astounded you still don't get it. Karasu is one of hundreds of characters you could argue will join the Strawhats for exactly the same reasons. In this regard he doesn't stand out. Furthermore, he's already a part of the Revolutionaries. Explain him leaving an organisation like that for a Pirate Crew?
Sabo's formal debut was chapter 583 while the third Sake cup was introduced somewhere in the Post-EL arc between chapters 431-441
So what makes Karasu different than Ivankov, Kuma or Dragon? All three were introduced way before both of them. In fact, what about Morley, who Ivankov mentioned back in Impel Down?
I'm astounded you still don't get it. Karasu is one of hundreds of characters you could argue will join the Strawhats for exactly the same reasons. In this regard he doesn't stand out. Furthermore, he's already a part of the Revolutionaries. Explain him leaving an organisation like that for a Pirate Crew?
