Controversial General Political Discussion

[York]

It's ok to be White, it's ok to be male, it's ok to be straight and it's ok to be all three at once.

Finally someone said it

 

[Logiko]

Excusing and disregarding the shortcomings of a group saying it's for justice is the exact same logic that dictators used to eradicate cultures and invade other countries lmao

Was the french revolution illegitimate then ?

 

[Okamakama]

It's ok to be White, it's ok to be male, it's ok to be straight and it's ok to be all three at once.

It's okay to be anything when the traits are immutable. The issue is when you start pushing a way of life onto someone.
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Finally someone said it

Is it wrong though..?

Edit* Ignore me Kiku, I didn't notice it was you. Sorry.

 

[Logiko]

It's ok to be White, it's ok to be male, it's ok to be straight and it's ok to be all three at once.

There there.
You gonna be ok little snowflake.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

It's ok to be White, it's ok to be male, it's ok to be straight and it's ok to be all three at once.

Nobody is saying it’s not clown. Sit down.

 

[Okamakama]

Excusing and disregarding the shortcomings of a group saying it's for justice is the exact same logic that dictators used to eradicate cultures and invade other countries lmao

Wait... you can't just say such a thing... it delegitimizes their struggle.

 

[Cross_Marian]

That still depends on how the scriptures are cherry picked. Lets not pretend like extremist groups within islam dont find justifications for their behavior in islamic scriptures. And they would vehemently disagree that its not the islamic message. there is a reason different subgroups of islam have conflicts with each other, and its not just influence of the west
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Germany raises the mininum wage on like a yearly basis.

I get your point
People cherry pick a lot
This is why criticism against religion (especially religious people with power) should be completely fine and is also needed

 

[Marine Piece]

Excusing and disregarding the shortcomings of a group saying it's for justice is the exact same logic that dictators used to eradicate cultures and invade other countries lmao

No it's not, you are missing the causes by just looking at the effect

 

[NikaInParis]

Burning and destroying stuff in protests will never make sense to me.

And this is not just about France.

Look at the George Floyd protests in the US. Looting, destroying, burning. Such violent protests (or riots would be the better word) attract only those that want to:
a) earn quick bucks by stealing
b) let out their rage in a group setting where arresting them will be difficult

Hell, a decade ago we had protests in my own city. A bunch of idiots came with the peaceful protesters, started rioting, and before you knew it administrative buildings were on fire and IT equipment was being carried away by Johns and Janes Doe.

And guess who had to pay to get all of that fixed afterwards? Yes, the same citizens that destroyed it in the first place.

 

[Cross_Marian]

Are you gonna buy the Makima figure

Don’t tempt me
I’m sure it’s expensive as hell, so I can’t even if I want

 

[Okamakama]

Burning and destroying stuff in protests will never make sense to me.

And this is not just about France.

Look at the George Floyd protests in the US. Looting, destroying, burning. Such violent protests (or riots would be the better word) attract only those that want to:
a) earn quick bucks by stealing
b) let out their rage in a group setting where arresting them will be difficult

Hell, a decade ago we had protests in my own city. A bunch of idiots came with the peaceful protesters, started rioting, and before you knew it administrative buildings were on fire and IT equipment was being carried away by Johns and Janes Doe.

And guess who had to pay to get all of that fixed afterwards? Yes, the same citizens that destroyed it in the first place.

But racism, bro. Fighting racism is clearly what's in all these people's minds. They couldn't possibly be looking for any form of excuse to act like savages. They're righteousness. They're justice. Don't be a bigot.

 

[Marine Piece]

Burning and destroying stuff in protests will never make sense to me.

And this is not just about France.

Look at the George Floyd protests in the US. Looting, destroying, burning. Such violent protests (or riots would be the better word) attract only those that want to:
a) earn quick bucks by stealing
b) let out their rage in a group setting where arresting them will be difficult

Hell, a decade ago we had protests in my own city. A bunch of idiots came with the peaceful protesters, started rioting, and before you knew it administrative buildings were on fire and IT equipment was being carried away by Johns and Janes Doe.

And guess who had to pay to get all of that fixed afterwards? Yes, the same citizens that destroyed it in the first place.

Nothing change when you keep being silent, this is simply the result of decades of frustration

 

[Logiko]

Burning and destroying stuff in protests will never make sense to me.

And this is not just about France.

Look at the George Floyd protests in the US. Looting, destroying, burning. Such violent protests (or riots would be the better word) attract only those that want to:
a) earn quick bucks by stealing
b) let out their rage in a group setting where arresting them will be difficult

Hell, a decade ago we had protests in my own city. A bunch of idiots came with the peaceful protesters, started rioting, and before you knew it administrative buildings were on fire and IT equipment was being carried away by Johns and Janes Doe.

And guess who had to pay to get all of that fixed afterwards? Yes, the same citizens that destroyed it in the first place.

Do you recognize that there is systemic racism and systemic police violence in the USA and France ?

 

[Uncle Van]

No it's not, you are missing the causes by just looking at the effect

Wrong. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. Excusing people sending death threats to an innocent person over something so unimportant and petty like your favorite character not joining the main cast, because real sturggles happens elsewhere, is stupid. Everyone needs boundaries to keep them from going to far.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Don’t tempt me
I’m sure it’s expensive as hell, so I can’t even if I want

If you had it

 

[Mathias]

Was the french revolution illegitimate then ?

Depends which step

Burning and destroying stuff in protests will never make sense to me.

And this is not just about France.

Look at the George Floyd protests in the US. Looting, destroying, burning. Such violent protests (or riots would be the better word) attract only those that want to:
a) earn quick bucks by stealing
b) let out their rage in a group setting where arresting them will be difficult

Hell, a decade ago we had protests in my own city. A bunch of idiots came with the peaceful protesters, started rioting, and before you knew it administrative buildings were on fire and IT equipment was being carried away by Johns and Janes Doe.

And guess who had to pay to get all of that fixed afterwards? Yes, the same citizens that destroyed it in the first place.

Gilet Jaune movement on the Champs-Élysées was useful though

 

[Marine Piece]

Wrong. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. Excusing people sending death threats to an innocent person over something so unimportant and petty like your favorite character not joining the main cast, because real sturggles happens elsewhere, is stupid. Everyone needs boundaries to keep them from going to far.

Oh yeah we are not talking about the same thing, I thought you were talking about France

 

[Okamakama]

Do you recognize that there is systemic racism and systemic police violence in the USA and France ?

Do you legitimately believe that everyone who is rioting is doing it due to this?

 

[Mathias]

Do you legitimately believe that everyone who is rioting is doing it due to this?

It was the trigger. But so much of them got arrested in the last days that last night night turned out to be chill

 

[Cross_Marian]

If you had it

If I had the money?
50/50
It would be an intuitive decision