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Toby D. Dog

Toby D. Dog

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NAMELESS said:
Totalitarian LEFT wing regime.The conservative stuff is just a facade.Stalin strategy was to erode western societies with cultural subversion while preserving Russia.Its exactly what is going on right now.Same with China.
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The means of production are still privately owned. Granted, a lot of state officials own these companies, but they are by definition privately owned. If Russia was truly communist Russia wouldn't have billionaires privately owning conglomerates.
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NAMELESS said:
That is the theory behind it,but that was not what happened back in the day.Research actual testimonial of people that lived under soviet union and see how great it is to have to wait in a line to receive your daily ration of food from the government to feed your family.
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The soviet union was never a democratic socialist society, there was no democracy whatsoever. The means of production were solely controlled by the state. All the companies where OWNED by the state. That's a key difference that you're overlooking. They were a communist regime.
 
Zolo

Zolo

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#14,402
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Toby D. Dog said:
The means of production are still privately owned. Granted, a lot of state officials own these companies, but they are by definition privately owned. If Russia was truly communist Russia wouldn't have billionaires privately owning conglomerates.
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The soviet union was never a democratic socialist society, there was no democracy whatsoever. The means of production were solely controlled by the state. All the companies where OWNED by the state. That's a key difference that you're overlooking. They were a communist regime.
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Toby D. Dog

Toby D. Dog

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Zolo said:
When blackrock says your company needs to do gay shit, you do it. They are new communist owners of your business
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True forest man. What would we do without you? I guess an oligarchy where the state answers to private interests is what communism is. I can't wait for you to guest speak at Harvard.
 
NAMELESS

NAMELESS

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Toby D. Dog said:
The means of production are still privately owned. Granted, a lot of state officials own these companies, but they are by definition privately owned. If Russia was truly communist Russia wouldn't have billionaires privately owning conglomerates.
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Power in Russia is centralized,that place is run by oligarchs(mafia).But of course they are free to work,buy stuff and pay taxes.Communism abandoned the Marxist model.Communism was never about controlling the means of production actually,they used that because they thought that was the way to cease control and power.Its was all about power and power is social control.Marx book is both propaganda and strategy on how to do a revolution.Current Communists do things by controlling the media,culture,schools,universities,heavy taxation and regulations.If they have control over people's mind thnx to cultural hegemony,they will always win elections.That is exactly what happened here in Brazil in 1988.The army killed of the terrorists,but left the intellectuals run their mouth and censor cultural opposition.The result:not a right wing in sight during the elections in the 90s.This happened all over Latin America.Thnx to the internet their cultural monopoly is over,but they are far from being out of the game.They still have the upper hand when it comes to cultural adhesion.Their social engineering scheme is just too powerful and has being going on for decades.
 
Toby D. Dog

Toby D. Dog

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#14,410
NAMELESS said:
Power in Russia is centralized,that place is run by oligarchs(mafia).But of course they are free to work,buy stuff and pay taxes.Communism abandoned the Marxist model.Communism was never about controlling the means of production actually,they used that because they thought that was the way to cease control and power.Its was all about power and power is social control.Marx book is both propaganda and strategy on how to do a revolution.Current Communists do things by controlling the media,culture,schools,universities,heavy taxation and regulations.If they have control over people's mind thnx to cultural hegemony,they will always win elections.That is exactly what happened here in Brazil in 1988.The army killed of the terrorists,but left the intellectuals run their mouth and censor cultural opposition.The result:not a right wing in sight during the elections in the 90s.This happened all over Latin America.Thnx to the internet their cultural monopoly is over,but they are far from being out of the game.They still have the upper hand when it comes to cultural adhesion.Their social engineering scheme is just too powerful and has being going on for decades.
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Come back to me when you stop conflating communism with democratic socialism. We're just going in circles at this point.
 
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