Powers & Abilities Why do people have trouble calling characters swordsman ?

#65
My point is if you mention going against numbers, then Zoro has had the same experienced in this arc. If you move the goalpost to how strong they are, ROFL. Doflamingo didn't need help to kick Law's ass.
The strength of the enemies do matter when you're bringing the "But Zoro faced numbers too though" argument.

Doflamingo wouldnt need help to kick Zoro's ass either. My original statement still holds up. Both faced fujitora, in Laws case Fujitora had Doffy backing him up. There hasnt been a gap portrayed between the two.
 
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#66
Yeah, put me in the “Swordsman implies a certain level of skill over pure usage” camp. I’m not so rigid that I think it has to be an ACTUAL sword - if a DF user manifests their powers into the form of a blade AND has some proficiency with it, then they’re a swordsman as well. Still, to be considered a practitioner of an art like swordsmanship, you have to actually, you know...practice it. Outside of that, I won’t hesitate to call a swordsman when I see one.
 
#67
The strength of the enemies do matter when you're bringing the "But Zoro faced numbers too though" argument.

Law would deal with Killer and Gyukenmaru with a single swing

Doflamingo wouldnt need help to kick Zoro's ass either. My original statement still holds up. Both faced fujitora, in Laws case Fujitora had Doffy backing him up. There hasnt been a gap portrayed between the two
None of that actually comes from what we see. Law vs Killer and Gyukimaru never happened. Zoro vs Doflamingo never happened. You can't just make up a result.


Who did they fight in common? Briefly Fujitora and Hawkins. Not sure where you're getting "gap" from but neither of those are conclusive either way. The level of opponent capable of beating Law by way of hustle (Vergo, Hawkins) is either beaten by Zoro (Pica is same rank as Vergo) or just exchanges more or less evenly with Zoro (Fujitora and Hawkins). As I said, it's debatable because the details are usually so different.
 
#68
Not this again:pepeke::pepeke:It's simple really:pepemwai:Anybody that uses sword 100% of all time and once they lost their sword, they're fodder:myman:For example, if Mihawk doesn't have Yoru then he's fodder. People like Big Mom and Kizaru are not swordsman because they can fight without using a sword:kata:Hope this clear for you guys:pepelit:
 
#72
Seeing how oda labels fujitora a swordsman, someone who legit never used his sword for slashing/stabbing/cutting/whatever, i'd guess oda probably views big mom as a swordswoman as well.

And also considering oda labeling fuji a swordsman, i heavily doubt that the WSS title is about only swordsmanship, but fighting in general. That would mean mihawk > fuji, mihawk > big mom. If the WSS title is about only swordsmanship, then this isnt necessarily the case. And since zoro is going to be the future WSS and he uses kicks, punches, demonic powers to grow extra heads and limbs, that just adds to why i heavily doubt it is about only swordsmanship.
 
#77
Isn't it obvious? Fanboys don't want Zoro to be as strong as he is projected to be
You have that backwards, his fanboys project himself stronger than what he is... memeing as if what ever they say is truth... is there any other fandom more delusional... we can admit Zoro is strong, we can admit that he might have not gone all out yet, but that doesn't mean he wasn't close to doing so.
 
#78
You have that backwards, his fanboys project himself stronger than what he is... memeing as if what ever they say is truth... is there any other fandom more delusional... we can admit Zoro is strong, we can admit that he might have not gone all out yet, but that doesn't mean he wasn't close to doing so.
Close to doing so means he’s shown pre timeskip Asura techniques. He hasn’t done that yet.
 
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