Speculations Will Kizaru's slave past be sad?

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Will the foul-smelling slave Kizaru's past be sad, or will he make a difference? Kuzan, his former teammate, managed to break free from the WG's shackles and is now bound in the chains of Emperor Blackbeard, Kuzan's captain. It's worth noting that Kuzan is the same as Akainu. Will Kizaru somehow be liberated by Nika here in EGG? Is the warrior of liberation capable of freeing the slave LILAZU? The more he smiles, the stronger he becomes.

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[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

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[Sasaki Kojirō]

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What is it that you didn't understand?

 

[Hanzo hattori]

http://imgur.com/a/IKm4Et4

 

[gz89]

I have a feeling that all these Admiral hate threads will backfire really hard.

Don't be in such a hurry Egghead just started.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

http://imgur.com/a/IKm4Et4

http://imgur.com/gpIWqgG

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

What is it that you didn't understand?

where is this slave theory coming from

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

where is this slave theory coming from

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

D stronger most people in the world are corp slaves
its not comparable to what you are describing.
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[NikaInParis]

where is this slave theory coming from

Kizaru in one translation - "I'm a corporate slave"

That's basically it, but agendas gotta agenda and this one looks fun judging by the title at least lol

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

D stronger most people in the world are corp slaves
its not comparable to what you are describing.
......

Real life different from life in One Piece.
Shanks is a corporate slave, is Kaidou too? Is the big mom too?
No, they don't go around calling themselves corporate slaves like Kizaru, so their argument is flawed.

The point of the topic is not even debating who is a slave out there, but whether Kizaru will be freed from the slavery he lives by Nika the liberation warrior. LOL

Another big point is the fact that Kizaru is okay with it, being okay with being a corporate slave, tbh that's just too embarrassing.
This is like Luffy and Kid being okay with being subordinates to Kaido, when we saw them fighting and preferring death over this. And mind you, both of them are conquerors. This lack of reluctance on Kizaru's part is pathetic.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Real life different from life in One Piece.
Shanks is a corporate slave, is Kaidou too? Is the big mom too?
No, they don't go around calling themselves corporate slaves like Kizaru, so their argument is flawed.

The point of the topic is not even debating who is a slave out there, but whether Kizaru will be freed from the slavery he lives by Nika the liberation warrior. LOL

shanks isnt
neither is kaido or big mom

if you work for a corp with structure where you report to superiors/managers/director , likely a steady paycheck , and a limited degree of independence . you are a corp slave. kizaru in the same way has a job. But thats different from the slavery that you are talking about. corp slave means the same thing in one piece as it does in real life, if you are an employee
you are 99 % of the time a corp slave.


pirates dont really have a job. ....... they live to their own beat.

 

[Moegara]

I really, really do not get the Kizaru slander from that sentence unless it's agenda hate.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

shanks isnt
neither is kaido or big mom

if you work for a corp with structure where you report to superiors/managers/director , likely a steady paycheck , and a limited degree of independence . you are a corp slave. kizaru in the same way has a job. But thats different from the slavery that you are talking about. corp slave means the same thing in one piece as it does in real life, if you are an employee
you are 99 % of the time a corp slave.


pirates dont really have a job. ....... they live to their own beat.

Kizaru is merely a cog turning in the grand scheme of things, where his superiors use him as they see fit. If they accidentally touch a CD, they call an admiral to clean up their mess. Green Bull is constantly threatened by CDs in the World Government, which is not much different from the slavery I'm mentioning.

The admirals, including Kizaru, are essentially government lapdogs, as Kaido described. Despite the hierarchy within the navy, it becomes pointless when someone of high prestige in the nobility disregards an admiral.
And this is so strong that even Kizaru, who suddenly becomes saturn butler, admits that he's a slave. Lmao.

• Lapdogs of the Celestial Dragons (Treated as slaves by them, essentially).
• They refer to themselves as corporate slaves.

And Kizaru submits to this and is perfectly fine with it. Not all organizations have these same demands.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Kizaru is merely a cog turning in the grand scheme of things, where his superiors use him as they see fit. If they accidentally touch a CD, they call an admiral to clean up their mess. Green Bull is constantly threatened by CDs in the World Government, which is not much different from the slavery I'm mentioning.
The admirals, including Kizaru, are essentially government lapdogs, as Kaido described. Despite the hierarchy within the navy, it becomes pointless when someone of high prestige in the nobility disregards an admiral.
And this is so strong that even Kizaru, who suddenly becomes saturn butler, admits that he's a slave. Lmao.

Thats not slavery
but I can tell you are either a child or someone who hasnt really had a regular job. yes a cog in the grand scheme of things is reality for 99% of the population but theres a difference between that and slavery.

 

[grey matter]

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Some agenda nonsense, what didn't you understand lmao?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Some agenda nonsense, what didn't you understand lmao?

I honestly didnt see it as an agenda
was genuinely confused but now thats clear.
trying to demean admirals based on the hypothetical that they may be "slaves" however should say alot of about one's character /personal views .

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Thats not slavery
but I can tell you are either a child or someone who hasnt really had a regular job. yes a cog in the grand scheme of things is reality for 99% of the population but theres a difference between that and slavery.

The term "slavery" can be applied in various contexts, not solely confined to physical captivity.
Still don't understand?

but I can tell you are either a child or someone who hasnt really had a regular job.

This is subjective; while some individuals may feel a sense of autonomy and job satisfaction, others may experience varying levels of pressure, hierarchy, or limited decision-making power.

The second one is basically Kizaru, a slave to the system.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

The term "slavery" can be applied in various contexts, not solely confined to physical captivity.
Still don't understand?

This is subjective; while some individuals may feel a sense of autonomy and job satisfaction, others may experience varying levels of pressure, hierarchy, or limited decision-making power.

its not subjective
if you dont have complete control in your day to day and still report to a superior body
your job satisfaction or others things are irrelevant. you are a corp slave . a cog in the machine, replaceable and expendable.


within the admirals you see varying degrees of satisfaction and autonomy
greenbull loves his job
fuji hates the government and wants things changed
kizaru does what hes told

they are all corp slaves. now you see it as subjective because you are now understanding the ramifications also in real life. people generally are like the admirals.

 

[nik87]

Pointless bickering between Yonkobros and Admiralbros by twisting words...
Other than that, Kuzan is the king of narrative among the Admirals, he always gets the best background stories and flashbacks so I do not expect any background for Kizaru, especially considering Zoro's opponents are notorious for being narrative zeroes.