Chapter Discussion Translations based on the Japanese text
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I wouldnt say disobey to be honest, Saturn asks him if he can just go through as hes light and Kizaru agrees then he asks him to ignore Sento but the main divergence starts here, in the older translation he says :
"I can't abandon my ideals"
Whereas in this one he says something akin to this:
"At least let me do it my way"
He's trying to compromise and Saturn lets him because it doesnt really go against the mission.
Kizaru isnt disobeying him here though so why wouldnt he let him be?
Also in Japanese he literally says "kudasai-yo" which if you've watched enough anime you may recognise, which is often used when you want to ask someone for something politely like "please give me X"
He would be saying the word ''please'' to someone he's straight up defiant to.
"I can't abandon my ideals"
Whereas in this one he says something akin to this:
"At least let me do it my way"
He's trying to compromise and Saturn lets him because it doesnt really go against the mission.
Kizaru isnt disobeying him here though so why wouldnt he let him be?
Also in Japanese he literally says "kudasai-yo" which if you've watched enough anime you may recognise, which is often used when you want to ask someone for something politely like "please give me X"
He would be saying the word ''please'' to someone he's straight up defiant to.
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It's not about disobeying
Saturn: "The Frontier Dome has a 'laser' interception system, right? And you are 'light'...can you get in?"
Saturn ask a simple question to kiz - can you get in? Because he knows kiz is capable of
Kizaru: "Honestly I could, but my friend is protecting Vegapunk down below."
Kizaru politely says he can but he won't because of his friend
Saturn: "You can easily bypass him."
Saturn gave another reasoning for kiz to bypass the lasers
Kizaru: "If I ignore the determination of the man who stands in my way, I will lose face. Let me at least be reasonable."
Now kiz comes up with above statement.
It implies two things.
1)Kiz character development moment - honouring Senta dedication while requesting Saturn to do it.
But more importantly,
2)Saturn actually giving respect to kiz decision by not ordering him to do otherwise. He let kiz do what he wants. This actually means a lot because in the same chapter he was portrayed as savage by not caring about human lives yet...here he is letting kizaru honor senta because kiz wants to
So, it's mutual respect from both Saturn and kiz
Saturn: "The Frontier Dome has a 'laser' interception system, right? And you are 'light'...can you get in?"
Saturn ask a simple question to kiz - can you get in? Because he knows kiz is capable of
Kizaru: "Honestly I could, but my friend is protecting Vegapunk down below."
Kizaru politely says he can but he won't because of his friend
Saturn: "You can easily bypass him."
Saturn gave another reasoning for kiz to bypass the lasers
Kizaru: "If I ignore the determination of the man who stands in my way, I will lose face. Let me at least be reasonable."
Now kiz comes up with above statement.
It implies two things.
1)Kiz character development moment - honouring Senta dedication while requesting Saturn to do it.
But more importantly,
2)Saturn actually giving respect to kiz decision by not ordering him to do otherwise. He let kiz do what he wants. This actually means a lot because in the same chapter he was portrayed as savage by not caring about human lives yet...here he is letting kizaru honor senta because kiz wants to
So, it's mutual respect from both Saturn and kiz
It's not worth making a thread about this but Kizaru prioritising to off his Nakama first is a lot
like what Lucci talked about Assassins, if they are friends they go for the strongest first..
Assassin Justice.. Killer Justice?..
like what Lucci talked about Assassins, if they are friends they go for the strongest first..
Assassin Justice.. Killer Justice?..
Nah kizaru is doing his own thing rather than 100% obey Saturn like robot. Kizaru is doing his own/selfish way.
‘Sandman explain kizaru on 1090 which that is how goku will act like this . Literally excuse for fight .
‘Lke son goku give senzu bean to cell amd moro , and spare vegeta when he beg krillain to not kill him for his reason. Goku allowed frieza goes full power instead killing non-full power frieza.
Same Saturn got stressed out and kizaru have to explain the plan to him.
‘It does not make Saturn look good or look superior to kizaru .
‘Sandman explain kizaru on 1090 which that is how goku will act like this . Literally excuse for fight .
‘Lke son goku give senzu bean to cell amd moro , and spare vegeta when he beg krillain to not kill him for his reason. Goku allowed frieza goes full power instead killing non-full power frieza.
Same Saturn got stressed out and kizaru have to explain the plan to him.
‘It does not make Saturn look good or look superior to kizaru .
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Its the same like "Cog in a wheel" changed to "I'm just a slave" kind of thing. Latrine fanbase got played again by stupid early translation from a C grade site. Now they know once doom dutt da da hits, its over for Lizaru. Deactive the accounts Marinetards, you will get everyshit back you have said about Yonko and Luffy over a false translation.
I didn’t see the determination thing as kizaru not listening to Saturn’s orders like many people thought
If was simply a suggestion
Tho I like kizaru’s line abt not running away and betraying determined soldiers
If it was the old kizaru which I thought he was , kiz would have straight up ignored sentomaru and trolled him
If was simply a suggestion
Tho I like kizaru’s line abt not running away and betraying determined soldiers
If it was the old kizaru which I thought he was , kiz would have straight up ignored sentomaru and trolled him