Ofc course hes a fighter, but he fights with swords like its not that hard to understand? Are they gonna say role : swordsman? That wouldn’t be a role. Fighter is though.
Why wouldn't swordsman be a role? Swordsman literally means 'fighter who uses sword' lmao. But instead, his role is just fighter.
Just as Luffy needs to be strong enough to protect his crew, Zoro needs to be strong enough to protect his captain. We saw this multiple times on the Wano Rooftop.
I'm not even arguing Zoro = or > Luffy so idk why you're so pressed. Luffy fans are right that Luffy is currently stronger than Zoro but their arguments are notoriously terrible. Not calling you a Luffy fan btw, but your argument was also flimsy.
Luffy is above Zoro because he has better feats, simple as that. If Zoro had better feats he'd be above Luffy, but he doesn't.
I like you as a person and think youre a great guy, but you have issues when it comes to Zoro and I had my fill with your takes. Feel free to talk to me about anything else though. Or dont, your choice.
I like you as a person and think youre a great guy, but you have issues when it comes to Zoro and I had my fill with your takes. Feel free to talk to me about anything else though. Or dont, your choice.
I’m a Zoro fan and I agree with you
It’s the truth
Every character has a different role and purpose
Zoro will surpass Shanks and Mihawk but Luffy's goal is one step above that. Shanks is not Luffy's end goal
It comes from Luffy being unable to beat Zoro in Whiskey Peak, from Zoro telling Luffy that he has more willpower and proving it in thriller bark in a direct contest of willpower. It comes from obvious difference in power against Kaido on rooftop. It cones from manifestations of willpower where Luffy only awakened what someone else before him dreamed up while Zoro manifested Power in god form for the first time ever. It comes from repeating that cuts are Luffy's weakness and constant protection by not pairing him with swordsmen. It comes from Zoro protecting Luffy and desiring Power more than Luffy does.
I can go on but I dont think any of this matters to you, you will simply ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.
I personally think that Ray, Ben and EoS Zoro don’t have a huge gap to their captains like WB - Marco, Kaido - King and BM - Kata
Each of them represents an era and they are parallels to each other
Old Gen: Roger and Ray
Current Gen: Shanks and Ben
New Gen: Luffy and Zoro
It’s either a > or >= gap between them
It’s all speculation at this point because we haven’t seen enough feats
The awesome thing is that Zoro will not only be a stronger VC than prime Ray and Ben, he will even surpass Shanks
Luffy will be in his own tier, he will be literally the pinnacle of this world.
I personally think that Ray, Ben and EoS Zoro don’t have a huge gap to their captains like WB - Marco, Kaido - King and BM - Kata
Each of them represents an era and they are parallels to each other
Old Gen: Roger and Ray
Current Gen: Shanks and Ben
New Gen: Luffy and Zoro
It’s either a > or >= gap between them
It’s all speculation at this point because we haven’t seen enough feats
The awesome thing is that Zoro will not only be a stronger VC than prime Ray and Ben, he will even surpass Shanks
Luffy will be in his own tier, he will be literally the pinnacle of this world.
Surpass Mihawk which means he's automatically > Shanks (who's already stronger than 99% of OP characters)
And be among the strongest in the world (really of all time) by EOS
To me this is more than enough and more than any RHM likely in history has ever received
Luffy will be above all that (maybe not by a large margin) and that is perfectly fine
Just like Sanji fans will be forced to accept Sanji peaking at Admiral level (really high), Zoro fans will be forced to accept Zoro being among the strongest with only a handful of characters placing above him (which is much much higher than where most of the community have him)
It comes from Luffy being unable to beat Zoro in Whiskey Peak, from Zoro telling Luffy that he has more willpower and proving it in thriller bark in a direct contest of willpower. It comes from obvious difference in power against Kaido on rooftop. It cones from manifestations of willpower where Luffy only awakened what someone else before him dreamed up while Zoro manifested Power in god form for the first time ever. It comes from repeating that cuts are Luffy's weakness and constant protection by not pairing him with swordsmen. It comes from Zoro protecting Luffy and desiring Power more than Luffy does.
I can go on but I dont think any of this matters to you, you will simply ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.
I'm not ignoring it I just don't think it's enough to put Zoro above Luffy or even equal to him for that matter
This is the same logic Sanji fans use "wings of the Pirate King, Doriki, King and Queen, 2 and 3" and while it could be considered evidence it just isn't enough for me to consider them equal
Not to mention ZKK also had pages upon pages of evidence and where did it lead to? Nowhere
I wholeheartedly disagree with 99% of your takes and I will respectfully disagree with this one as well
When Oda shows me that they're equal I'll swallow my words. Until then I have to disagree
I never said Zoro will fight Kizaru, but those who shit on Fans who believed in such Possibility are being dumb & biased
Saturn is Supreme Leader of this entire Egghead Operation, and Kizaru is his Strongest Henchman
Saying Zoro might fight No. 2 Guy is very normal & something that We can expect in every Arc
Laughing at People who thought Zoro may Fight Kizaru, is equivalent of laughing at people who thought Luffy might Fight Vergo in Punk Hazard, both didn't happen but they were completely logical guesses due to how Luffy & Zoro receive their Opponents
Zoro Fans Theories are shit on cuz they are simply hated (They hate Zoro more than anything), not cuz they are actually bad
If anyone makes a Theory about Poneglyphs or All Blue or World Map, no one gonna overreact, but when it's Theories about Zoro's Journey towards WSS, they will shit on them non-stop just cuz They are Power-Level Related due to Zoro being Crew's Fighter/Swordsman
Zoro fans still insisted on zoro defeating an admiral not only prior to luffy(which NEVER happens, luffy ALWAYS gets to eat the cake first) but after saturn EXPLICITLY said he wasn't going to fight.
Zoro fans still insisted on zoro defeating an admiral not only prior to luffy(which NEVER happens, luffy ALWAYS gets to eat the cake first) but after saturn EXPLICITLY said he wasn't going to fight.
This is the first time oda is giving Luffy a swordsman tho so why are people blaming zboys for expecting Zoro vs kizaru when swordsmen are always Zoro fights
This is the first time oda is giving Luffy a swordsman tho so why are people blaming zboys for expecting Zoro vs kizaru when swordsmen are always Zoro fights
I'm not ignoring it I just don't think it's enough to put Zoro above Luffy or even equal to him for that matter
This is the same logic Sanji fans use "wings of the Pirate King, Doriki, King and Queen, 2 and 3" and while it could be considered evidence it just isn't enough for me to consider them equal
Not to mention ZKK also had pages upon pages of evidence and where did it lead to? Nowhere
I wholeheartedly disagree with 99% of your takes and I will respectfully disagree with this one as well
When Oda shows me that they're equal I'll swallow my words. Until then I have to disagree
The issue is Oda isnt showing you that they are equal, he is showing you that Zoro is superior.
Whether it is a statement of superior willpower or a direct measurement of it in TB, Zoro's willpower>Luffy's willpower.
Whether it is a direct contest of strength in WP, Luffy had to fire an attack just to stop Zoro from using his.
Whether it is performance vs Hyozou, Hody, Fujitora or Kaido, Zoro is always superior.
I guess you will also disagree if Zoro ends up with World's Strongest Man title?
EoS Zoro will be stronger than most of Luffy's rivals.
Some people at the end of Wano, were pointing out Kid and Law were>Zoro. Largely because 3 billion bounty nonsense. It made 0 sense for Law and Kid to surpass Mihawk and Shanks by any large metric.
And now? The story fucked those 2 over. It's entirely reasonable to think Zoro far surpasses those 2(K/L). They aren't even Luffy's rivals anymore. They lost their ponegylphs.
And we know Zoro will end up rivaling the world's strongest. Shanks and Mihawk will be below him.
Realistically. Aside from Goofy, Dragon, Blackbeard and Imu? Who will rival or surpass Zoro?
Fucking nobody. That's who.
But then certain Zoro fans go crazy in their theories. Like he's killing Kaido! Or beating Kizaru lol.
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Still believing this nonsense
