Character Discussion Why Mihawk doesn't fight non swordsmen?
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Theres no reason for me to cope . You will keep telling yourselves hes a level above yonko shanks but he will never show it because he wont beat anyone relevant in this story . Not an admiral, not a yonko , maybe not even a top commander. he is a character just waiting to get smashed and in the meantime every fan sees shanks stopping a war , stopping kaido , one-shotting kidd, being far more recognized by other top tiers ( admirals yonkos alike) while The wss title is one that like 3 people give a shit about.
He has that terrible portrayal in marineford.
comes out of it says hes excited to be chased again like hes going to do something relevant so he goes back the guild and again the goal is just really to build some isolated island , and when buggy brings up challenging the others , he has reservations.
you lot keep piling up the excuses for in my opinion along with greenbull the biggest coward amongst the folks we consider top tiers in this story. OP shouldnt be asking why mihawk doesnt fight non swordsmen
OP should ask the last time mihawk fought anyone including swordsmen worth their salt.
He has that terrible portrayal in marineford.
comes out of it says hes excited to be chased again like hes going to do something relevant so he goes back the guild and again the goal is just really to build some isolated island , and when buggy brings up challenging the others , he has reservations.
you lot keep piling up the excuses for in my opinion along with greenbull the biggest coward amongst the folks we consider top tiers in this story. OP shouldnt be asking why mihawk doesnt fight non swordsmen
OP should ask the last time mihawk fought anyone including swordsmen worth their salt.
Idk why you guys are fighting tooth and nails and making up headcanon about MF Mihawk vs Cancerbeard when Marineford was bullshit anyway and doesn't matter and I have been saying that all throughout this thread, but no one wants to listen for some reason even though Mihawk fans should be the ones saying this to get rid of all the "Vista and Crocodile are equal to Mihawk" BS because of their clash at the Marineford
It doesn't matter what was said or done during Marineford because at that point the author still hadn't fully established the power system of the series so all the "feats" back then should be considered filler-lite since they have no weight in the series right now
It doesn't matter what was said or done during Marineford because at that point the author still hadn't fully established the power system of the series so all the "feats" back then should be considered filler-lite since they have no weight in the series right now
If you consider Marineford to be fully canon - despite the fact that Haki hadn't even been fully invented - then you basically have to accept the following:
Cancerbeard => Akainu, Yami Blackbeard > Shanks > Mihawk => Vista, Crocodile
Does this make sense to you? I know it shouldn't but if you want to accept Marineford as fully canon then you have to accept that power-scaling chart as well as per the feats and portrayals shown in the Marineford
Cancerbeard => Akainu, Yami Blackbeard > Shanks > Mihawk => Vista, Crocodile
Does this make sense to you? I know it shouldn't but if you want to accept Marineford as fully canon then you have to accept that power-scaling chart as well as per the feats and portrayals shown in the Marineford
Sure but man Oda dropped the ball on this one, imagine having over 1000 characters in your story and yet out of that 1000+ only one of your characters cares about the title and doesn’t even get challenged by any other swordsman until he reaches the finish line. Zoro was literally coasting for hundreds of chapters before he got another proper 1v1 and it wasn’t even with a swordsman. Oda is too busy giving Luffy all the screen time and glory, yet Zoro is supposed to be “one of the three triggers”.
He couldn't even use his Conqueror's Haki and got stabbed easily by Squardo even though Marco said he should have easily dodged it back then but he's so weak his Observation Haki didn't work properly, not to mention being easily pierced by bullets
The only reason Cancerbeard's portrayal wasn't as bad is because the other characters had even shittier portrayal
The only reason Cancerbeard's portrayal wasn't as bad is because the other characters had even shittier portrayal
I just recalled iirc he aimed an attack at wb
who isnt a swordsman because he was interested in his words the gap between wb and the rest of them
so at the very least hes open to challenging people who arent swordsmen . In general though its not his ambition. he is semi-retired waiting to get beat/surpassed.
who isnt a swordsman because he was interested in his words the gap between wb and the rest of them
so at the very least hes open to challenging people who arent swordsmen . In general though its not his ambition. he is semi-retired waiting to get beat/surpassed.
No whitebeard did not have bad portrayal at all. Like you said he was extremely sick and dying as is. His physical strength and haki being extremely limited at times. Meaning he has actual reason why he couldn’t go all out and that’s not what bad portrayal means
Same with the other warlords barely trying. Doflamingo not trying but still getting feats that make him seem superior to jozu is amazing portrayal
Akainu was able to punch multiple holes into whitebeard and tank some of his biggest attacks. He was also willing to fight the wbp pirate commanders + crocodile
Mihawk is the only character people complain about portrayal in marineford. Whether it’s no one really caring about him, him trying to fight luffy multiple times being stoped by vista and crocodile, his attack being stopped by jozu, the fact buggy the man with enough common sense to be afraid of the admirals wasn’t afraid of him, etc
Can’t act like everyone looked bad in marineford just because mihawk did
Same with the other warlords barely trying. Doflamingo not trying but still getting feats that make him seem superior to jozu is amazing portrayal
Akainu was able to punch multiple holes into whitebeard and tank some of his biggest attacks. He was also willing to fight the wbp pirate commanders + crocodile
Mihawk is the only character people complain about portrayal in marineford. Whether it’s no one really caring about him, him trying to fight luffy multiple times being stoped by vista and crocodile, his attack being stopped by jozu, the fact buggy the man with enough common sense to be afraid of the admirals wasn’t afraid of him, etc
Can’t act like everyone looked bad in marineford just because mihawk did
power system back then very different
No one was pulling out awakening, advanced cocnquerors, future sight.....
so I view thing in context of things that were revealed
and his endurance as sick as he was and at 80 was monstrous . he engaged all three admirals at some point and was additionally handicapped with illness and a crewmates betrayal and still could hang with them . I take a look at garp in beehive against aokiji and some scrub commanders, or rayleigh who just engaged kizaru and was running out of breath, wb looks even better in my eyes.
No one was pulling out awakening, advanced cocnquerors, future sight.....
so I view thing in context of things that were revealed
and his endurance as sick as he was and at 80 was monstrous . he engaged all three admirals at some point and was additionally handicapped with illness and a crewmates betrayal and still could hang with them . I take a look at garp in beehive against aokiji and some scrub commanders, or rayleigh who just engaged kizaru and was running out of breath, wb looks even better in my eyes.
As per what happened between them, wounded Cancerbeard gave Akainu a heavy beating despite having no organs and getting shot hundreds of times before, so it's not a stretch to say a non-wounded Cancerbeard would be equal. Ofc this is just bullshit writing by Oda since Cancerbeard couldn't even use his Conqueror's and Observation properly, but Oda didn't give a fuck about Haki back then
Fruitless Blackbeard scarred Shanks permenantly despite Shanks being serious and that's why Shanks warned Whitebeard of Blackbeard in the first place. The only reasons they didn't fight is plot. Is Yami Blackbeard stronger than current Shanks though? Ofc not since current Shanks has Advanced Conqueror's and broken Haki which both hadn't been invented back then
Lucci got dealt with pretty quickly by Luffy unlike Vista and Luffy didn't need to postpone the fight. Is Vista equal or stronger than Mihawk though? I think it's pretty stupid to say so since right now we can safely assume that Mihawk has also Advanced Haki - including Conqueror's - so he's definitely stronger
You get why Marineford doesn't matter? It's because all the powers that make characters like Mihawk, Shanks and Akainu strong as fuck hadn't been invented back then
Fruitless Blackbeard scarred Shanks permenantly despite Shanks being serious and that's why Shanks warned Whitebeard of Blackbeard in the first place. The only reasons they didn't fight is plot. Is Yami Blackbeard stronger than current Shanks though? Ofc not since current Shanks has Advanced Conqueror's and broken Haki which both hadn't been invented back then
Lucci got dealt with pretty quickly by Luffy unlike Vista and Luffy didn't need to postpone the fight. Is Vista equal or stronger than Mihawk though? I think it's pretty stupid to say so since right now we can safely assume that Mihawk has also Advanced Haki - including Conqueror's - so he's definitely stronger
You get why Marineford doesn't matter? It's because all the powers that make characters like Mihawk, Shanks and Akainu strong as fuck hadn't been invented back then
The only one making excuses is you.
Making claims for sure about the future of the manga you don't know shit about to try to make a point.
Nothing wrong with his marineford portrayal to anyone with a brain.
No buggy didn't bring up challenging others at all. Buggy said they don't need to fight anyone.
None of your excuses change the fact hes above the yonko.
Making claims for sure about the future of the manga you don't know shit about to try to make a point.
Nothing wrong with his marineford portrayal to anyone with a brain.
No buggy didn't bring up challenging others at all. Buggy said they don't need to fight anyone.
None of your excuses change the fact hes above the yonko.
What i'm trying to say that if Marineford took place right now with the current power system those characters would be VASTLY stronger than they were at the actual Marineford 13 years ago. Oda just hadn't thought deeply about Haki back then and the powers that make the top-tier broken nowadays hadn't even existed