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Then we disagree. Kizaru has gotten all of the personal baggage this arc, not Saturn. Saturn hasnt even budged and has only met VP once.

He will get his seraphim and mother flame. Thats not a "real" battle for this arc. Thats who they'll end up running from imo
Totally. I see why you stand by your choice. But I believe Saturn is the surprise factor in all of this.

Do you think Kizaru losing here is what will shake the world?

Also why do you think Kizaru said he doesn't want to kill VP?
 

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Expecting is not equal to wanting. You have gaps in logic. I want smotashi as a canon, but I'm assuming zorotashi as a canon, you know. I just don't like it when people decide for me and attribute motives to me that I don't have. You're overconfident.
smoker is too old for her and he seems to be more of a fatherly figure for her
 
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Yeah, i agree.

I think Kizaru is going down here.

We're getting flashbacks from him, we're seeing his powers in more detail.

The veil of mystery on the character is being lifted, and that usually happens when Luffy is entering the final battle with that character.

It's gonna be a hard fight though.

And i don't think the Straw Hats are gonna be able to run away from this as quickly as people think, there are a lot of moving pieces in this arc already.

We can't forget the Blackbeard Pirates being present too.
 
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The second Kaido became serious he dodged that shit with ease, your recency bias is disgusting lmao
Even at Dragon Kaido's slowest and giant form, he could, through physical effort, replicate or even surpass the attack speed of Snakeman Luffy's blows that were hitting Kizaru in this chapter. I don't even want to imagine what Bagua Kaido does to Kizaru; it's a total blitz.
 
Straw Hats have been escaping from admirals since long ring long land.Doubt Kizaru will go down here.He will be beaten a bit,but not defeated.The shocking event is probably that robot coming back to wreck havoc.
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it always does lol
It never does. It works out for them after they struggle and win fights.
 
Totally. I see why you stand by your choice. But I believe Saturn is the surprise factor in all of this.

Do you think Kizaru losing here is what will shake the world?

Also why do you think Kizaru said he doesn't want to kill VP?
Yes, because its the first sign of the Marines losing an Admiral.

He doesnt want to kill VP the same way he doesnt want to kill Sentoumaru. Orders are orders.
 
Yes, if that is the case then the robot will finish the marines and Kizaru while they sod off and this is why I don't like Oda always making SHPs as some kind of losers.
Enough of running away but they could still be victorious and go and that will be the egg head incident. I don't think them escaping would be a big incident, the robot awakening surely will and it awakening listening to the drums of liberation will have some lore.
how does he hurts Kizaru without haki?Light gloves?
 
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