Powers & Abilities Will Luffy or Zoro have their advanced conquerors be inconsistent against Kizaru ?

[SakazOuki]

the one time the man who beat Kaido used acoc

He didn’t land any other attack did he
This is a gear 5 muscle buffed flaming spinning ACoC toon force punch to the head
ACoC is merely part of the equation

 

[zenox]

He didn’t land any other attack did he
This is a gear 5 muscle buffed flaming spinning ACoC toon force punch to the head
ACoC is merely part of the equation

like that fucking matters
kizaru has been running the ENTIRE fight
but he still had to block some attacks from luffy and oda was simply nerfing luffy from using acoc
now that oda finally made him use acoc
kizaru got absolutely fucked

 

[SakazOuki]

kizaru has been running the ENTIRE fight

This is a straight up lie or comprehension issue
The part where Kizaru sent his clones lasted a couple seconds, from there on until Kizaru teleported last chapter was a full on fight between the two, and Gear5 still lost his stamina throughout

now that oda finally made him use acoc
kizaru got absolutely fucked

Luffy just now managed to land his first attack, he couldnt land one before, ACoC or not.
This is some dumbfuck agenda you got there lol

 

[Dragon777]

the one time the man who beat Kaido used acoc

Yeah, quite underwhelming being able to only land a hit and then be KO lol.

 

[zenox]

his is a straight up lie or comprehension issue

SURE M8

Luffy just now managed to land his first attack, he couldnt land one before, ACoC or not.

or maybe using acoc would have been better for landing an attack

This is some dumbfuck agenda you got there lol

the only one with a dumbfuck agenda here is the guy who thinks acoc barely matters

 

[King7]

In Garp-Aokiji case
The black bands behind them & big black lightnings indicate CoC, afaik the black bands are only present in CoC usage like Roger vs WB clash

As for the big black lightnings, probably the vast majority of the time ( when Haki is clearly used ) they were CoC, so really likely they were drawn to indicate CoC there


In Kizaru's case
Luffy didn't use ACoC in Snakeman and G5 attacks bar Star Gun, though on the other hand Kizaru has been casual/relaxed vs Snakeman and when he was thrown by G5 and when he was about to attack Luffy with clones :
Compare his expression to Luffy's/Snakeman's
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1092-page-10.html
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1092-page-11.html
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1092-page-12.html

When he was thrown by G5 and about to attack Luffy with clones :
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1093-page-3.html
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1093-page-9.html
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1093-page-10.html

He also has been occupied with his priority of taking down Vegapunk, like when he send 20+ clones to G5, he went for Vegapunk
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1093-page-14.html
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1093-page-15.html
I don't think we've seen the full potential of the clones because of that
Kizaru + his clones combined attacking someone are way more dangerous than clones on their own

A proper Luffy vs Kizaru hasn't even started yet, i think after Star Gun Luffy will consistently use ACoC, at least when he's sure he'll hit the real Kizaru or when he really needed it like in Star Gun case

Kizaru on the other hand will be serious also after hit by SG

 

[trav]

CoC has one shot potential so it will always be inconsistent.
It will work when it has to and not work when it has to.

 

[King7]

now that oda finally made him use acoc
kizaru got absolutely fucked

I'm not really sure Kizaru got fucked, at least badly

Just compare Kizaru to Kaido & Lucci who clearly got badly fucked :
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1045-page-18.html
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1070-page-13.html

--- blood & white eyes, which weren't shown in Kizaru's case
--- Kizaru's face expression also seems normal

I feel like Lucci got fucked more than Kaido, and the difference between Lucci's & Kizaru's face expressions at the exact moments they took Dawn Rocket & SG is like heaven and earth

Kizaru's line of "i'm seeing stars" or "this is not good" doesn't necessarily indicate that he got badly fucked either :
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...u-when-punched-by-white-star-gun.49005/unread
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/was-kizaru-seeing-stars.49022/

 

[Moegara]

I knew Kizaru wouldn't be as durable as Kaido, I have always defended top tiers being relatives to each other, I never even went with the common consensus of Roger and Primebeard being on a tier of their own, but I never expected Kizaru to go down in a single hit.

A single hit from Goofy is too much. Unless he gets up and keeps fighting fine, I'll subcribe to admirals being between YC1 and Yonko for the first time ever.