Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1095 Spoilers Discussion

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Which Kizaru is getting back up, confirmed by the chapter, so to count the literal subjective seconds on a page doesnt work here.

And literally every major fight Luffy has had ever has ended with the opponent unconscious lol.

Seconds scaling until the character gets up

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Katsuki Bakugo

430days and he is back from the dead.....the guy didnt have even a proper fight in the arc

 

[Paperchampion23]

Maybe use the official translation next time, not some scanlation shit...

G5 being a haki form or whatever you just said is nothing more than cope

Nothing you posted is any different from what is being stated.

Luffy maintained the form out of pure willpower. Willpower is Haki. What are you not getting here.

 

[Extravlad]

Can't get up and tight for a while after being punched = loss
Can't get up and fight anymore = loss

Not every fight ends with the opponent unconscious. What matters is if the opponent can get up to fight again or not

Spitting Noodle

Luffy lost

 

[Strawhats Bible]

No a knockout is a knockout lol, you arent conscious.

Apparently most fighters that gets KO'd and still conscious never lost a fight

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

@ShadyOjiro you took a fat L for saying Bonney looks better than Sanji.

Give me my W!!!!

 

[Sasparan]

Which Kizaru is getting back up, confirmed by the chapter, so to count the literal subjective seconds on a page doesnt work here.

And literally every major fight Luffy has had ever has ended with the opponent unconscious lol.

Not Buggy

 

[ShadyOjiro]

It's pretty much the same pose i can't

Sinka the cooked hero.

 

[SkySanji]

Nothing you posted is any different from what is being stated.

Luffy maintained the form out of pure willpower. Willpower is Haki. What are you not getting here.

Then your eyes don't work because there are clear differences

Again, G5 being this constant haki form or whatever the fuck you're arguing is stupid and baseless, Oda has specifically gone out of his way to show G5 Luffy with ACoC and without ACoC, such as in the page you posted lmao

 

[Paperchampion23]

Spitting Noodle

Luffy lost

Dying

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Current Zoro>Oden so yes he is a Low TT

Oden wasnt a top tier lol, top high tier at MOST.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

@HeroesNZ what do u think now

 

[V2DiabLoO]

What did Kizaru do to win vs Luffy?

well he is quite the runner i would say...

 

[ShadyOjiro]

@ShadyOjiro you took a fat L for saying Bonney looks better than Sanji.

Give me my W!!!!

For a normal human she's doing ok.

Also unlike Sanji she's being grabbed by a monster.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Sanji looks better than compared to the fool summary.

 

[Malakhith]

What did Kizaru do to win vs Luffy?

Multiples attacks that Luffy had to handle and evade combined with hit and run tactics made him unconscious and unable to get back up.
And this without focusing on fighting him.
It's fair to assume that a focused Kizaru would be a extreme fight.

 

[Sasparan]

Spitting Noodle

Luffy lost

How can you say Luffy has lost while Kizaru cant get up rn. What kind of logic is that?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Bruh I’ve been saying Luffy didn’t use haki in his Dawn rocket on Lucci since it happened


And yeah, I don’t think every shot on Kaido in Gear 5 had ACOC either.

At this point I’m just gonna assume you’re being disingenuous. Have a nice day.

Holy fuck how are we still debating this stupid shit in 2023.

Gear 4 is Luffy coating himself in CoA fully.

Gear 5 is Luffy coating himself in CoA and CoC fully, which is why it drains Luffy's Haki so much.

Kaido speaking about Luffy: "He's coated with Armament and Conqueror's Haki."

Gear 5 ALWAYS USES COC COATING, ODA JUST REFUSE TO DRAW SHIT CONSISTENTLY.

You all drive me fucking insane, I need to make a thread about this.

FUCK ODA'S STUPID BLACK JAGGED LINES

Maybe use the official translation next time, not some scanlation shit...

G5 being a haki form or whatever you just said is nothing more than cope

Tell Zolo I said fuck Viz

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

For a normal human she's doing ok.

Also unlike Sanji she's being grabbed by a monster.

Fair then.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

That's a bit far lol.

Lucci got dominated by G5, while Kizaru went kinda even with G5 until the finale where he got downed with that punch.



Maybe, but it's all headcanon and interpretations really.

At this point, I've given up trying to figure out what's no haki, advanced armament or advanced conqueror's in Egghead arc. It's upto guesses at this point, since Loda is very inconsistent when it comes to drawing haki. To the point we have to rely on headcanon to at least some degree, cause nothing is explained for shit.

As far as Loda is concerned, Luffy may very well be using advanced conqueror's in both fights, but just wasn't drawn. We don't know

We can at least assume Luffy was using advanced armament against Lucci, since well they had that clash with a lot of lightning showing up.
The only reason I don't presume Luffy used advanced conqueror's there is that I don't believe Lucci can clash equally with G5 Luffy using advanced conqueror's (i.e headcanon, a lot of headcanon is needed here cause Loda is shit with haki)

With Kizaru, probably the last attack was advanced conqueror's. Could be advanced armament as well, who knows?
I will just assume advanced conqueror's I guess, because it had thicker lightning, but also mainly because I don't think Kizaru would be down by one hit without advanced conqueror's haki.



I've always believe Luffy was mid top-tier. Amongst the Yonkos, I had him above Big Mom and Marineford WB, but below other Yonkos. And <= Oden, if that counts for anything.

But yeah, prior to this, I always had the OG admirals above current Luffy, while new admirals below him.
At this point, I guess only maybe Akainu is clearly above Luffy

Akainu > current Luffy ~ Kizaru ~ Aokiji > Fuji ~ GB

And quite honestly, it is arguable that someone like Kaido would not even need extreme diff to take down Kizaru, high diff might be enough. Since well, Kaido can fight at the level of G5 Luffy without the time limit (once Kaido got used to G5's wack combat, he was fighting evenly or maybe even started getting the better of him in CQC).

Kizaru just ran away the entire time. There's no actual fight. It's cat and mouse, Luffy chasing Kizaru, it was a boring and dumb chase.