General & Others Kizaru vs Luffy: An Agendaless View

[BlackLegFring]

Name my agenda. I dare you.

Reflect on your own words. Maybe it helps you identify my agenda ... one day.

You lost it. That's an asspull.

It's not my fault you're incoherent.

Correction! I don't value some of the Admirals! It's different from hate. Which is why you confuse it with downplaying.
The use of the word tried is wrong, I didn't even have to try.

You should have that conversation with yourself. Urgently!


Maybe nobody values them as much as you do? Nothing wrong with that.

So the agenda is from what I gathered: I don't value some of the admirals, therefore it's downplaying. Therefore it's hate. Therefore I'm some Dark Sithlord that is set to extreminate the pure, virgin, kind hearted admirals.

Well, ok, I don't mind that projection, but you are wrong because those admirals are more like dog droppings on the side of the road. I never sought to exterminate them, they are just an eye sore.

Why the repetition? I already did. You started out with the Admiral hating agenda and are now with the Sabo agenda (still odd btw).

“You lost it. That’s an asspull.”

^What does that even mean? Now you aren’t being coherent. Or are you trying to deny that some people were claiming that Zoro or Sanji would defeat Kizaru? Even Pringles mentions it in one of his comments, lmao!

Now why am I not surprised that you’re blatantly trolling? How exasperating. Sticking to the topic at hand isn’t being incoherent apprently. If you’re going to try such nonsense, don’t expect me to waste my time.



Saying that Luffy would low diff an Admiral is downplaying. Or that he wouldn’t need his strongest form to do so. There’s no pretending or no excuses. The ship has sailed. There’s no fooling anyone but yourself.

Also amusing that fictional characters can get you that mad. IRC, you were even livid that they were doing their jobs. I’ll never understand such a bizarre mentality.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Admiral hating agenda

No such thing. It's over. Now it's obvious you lost it from the get go.

 

[BlackLegFring]

No such thing. It's over. Now it's obvious you lost it from the get go.

Unfortunately for you, your denial makes no difference any more than claiming that there aren’t any “Yonko fans” when people proudly call themselves that.

All you always do is just expose it and then act surprised when you’re called out about it.
Again, simply bizarre behaviour.

At least Pringles stays coherent even though he dodges stuff when it gets too uncomfortable for him. You can’t even do that much and just revert to grade school puerility.

 

[El Pekor]

Chapter 1050, maybe Oda thought it would ruin the solemn moment or he didn't think of it as a recurring drawback yet.

You're right but that kinda sucks that we can't take things at direct face value so I'm gonna assume that he can go back to normal directly.

 

[Hako Sama]

I have no idea why people actually think that Luffy will face Saturn 1v1, like if Kizaru will be back soon, who will face him?
Zoro? Zoro won't just easily defeat Lucci and then face Kizaru.
Sanji?
Don't forget that they have to fight against 20+ PXs and 9 VAs too. Lol

It's pretty clear that Luffy's opponent is Kizaru, and only Luffy can stop him.

 

[Adamxero]

Zoro fans on maximum cope mode I see.

Luffy looks better than Zoro in every way this arc.

Defeated Lucci easily.
Defeated an Admiral in 1 hit.

Zoro feats this arc.
Draw with Kaku
pushed back by S Hawk
Currently on the back foot against Lucci

 

[Psychiatrist]

Zoro fans on maximum cope mode I see.

Luffy looks better than Zoro in every way this arc.

Defeated Lucci easily.
Defeated an Admiral in 1 hit.

Zoro feats this arc.
Draw with Kaku
pushed back by S Hawk
Currently on the back foot against Lucci

They can only create multiple Megalomaniac threads to glorify themselves.
They can only say "Luffy aint that guy" but no substance to support it.
They are leachers of Godfys perfomances.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Imagin this scenario. Luffy is facing Franky and Usopp. He goes G5 because Oda likes to draw funny fights.
He grabs Franky and throws him away but Franky is part cyborg so it doesn't do much damage and thanks to coup de vent he doesn't fall in the sea. Meanwhile Usopp created a few plants that Luffy destroys with one kick.
Franky comes back and shoot a laser at Luffy that does zero damage.
Franky and Usopp then run away but Luffy catches up, then Franky does one more laser attack that Luffy dodges easily. Then he throws a punch coated with CoC and proceeds to one shot both of them. Then G5 turns off and Luffy becomes a grandpa.

What diff was that? Fucking low diff
Luffy low diffed Kizaru, objectively.
If Luffy uses G5 against Buggy, he would end up in the same state, if he uses it against Spandam, he would end up in the same state. It's not the opponent that will change that. Kizaru and Lucci aren't the same level yet Luffy ended in the same state

The difference is, Usopp would be dead and Franky KOed to next week. Kizaru is on the ground talking about how he'll get up soon lol

 

[ZenZu]

Imagin this scenario. Luffy is facing Franky and Usopp. He goes G5 because Oda likes to draw funny fights.
He grabs Franky and throws him away but Franky is part cyborg so it doesn't do much damage and thanks to coup de vent he doesn't fall in the sea. Meanwhile Usopp created a few plants that Luffy destroys with one kick.
Franky comes back and shoot a laser at Luffy that does zero damage.
Franky and Usopp then run away but Luffy catches up, then Franky does one more laser attack that Luffy dodges easily. Then he throws a punch coated with CoC and proceeds to one shot both of them. Then G5 turns off and Luffy becomes a grandpa.

What diff was that? Fucking low diff
Luffy low diffed Kizaru, objectively.
If Luffy uses G5 against Buggy, he would end up in the same state, if he uses it against Spandam, he would end up in the same state. It's not the opponent that will change that. Kizaru and Lucci aren't the same level yet Luffy ended in the same state

This might be the dumbest post this week

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Imagin this scenario. Luffy is facing Franky and Usopp. He goes G5 because Oda likes to draw funny fights.
He grabs Franky and throws him away but Franky is part cyborg so it doesn't do much damage and thanks to coup de vent he doesn't fall in the sea. Meanwhile Usopp created a few plants that Luffy destroys with one kick.
Franky comes back and shoot a laser at Luffy that does zero damage.
Franky and Usopp then run away but Luffy catches up, then Franky does one more laser attack that Luffy dodges easily. Then he throws a punch coated with CoC and proceeds to one shot both of them. Then G5 turns off and Luffy becomes a grandpa.

What diff was that? Fucking low diff
Luffy low diffed Kizaru, objectively.
If Luffy uses G5 against Buggy, he would end up in the same state, if he uses it against Spandam, he would end up in the same state. It's not the opponent that will change that. Kizaru and Lucci aren't the same level yet Luffy ended in the same state

Finally someone said it.
People claiming it's a draw because Luffy suffered from the drawbacks of G5 are dumb as a box of rocks.

 

[BlackLegFring]

Finally someone said it.
People claiming it's a draw because Luffy suffered from the drawbacks of G5 are dumb as a box of rocks.

Nah, many have been saying it all along and just as disingenuously too.
It seems to be just pent up disappointment that base Luffy couldn’t “low diff” as they imagined, and that he needed Gear 5 to even compete. Even 1 round of Gear 5 was not enough to KO his opponent.

The only contention here is with those trying to pretend an incomplete fight is some sort of victory or loss.

 

[Sentry22]

Proved his point

his point wasn’t to stay near Vegapunk and guard him like a German shepherd

He was intended to fight Kizaru whilst Vegapunk is being escorted

so yes, he was set on fighting Kizaru but Kizaru wasn’t set on him

BS.
The last exchange has Kizaru firing off the first attack with Luffy countering him. Luffy had exhausted himself long before Kizaru even arrived. What kind of Victory is this?